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Skyrim CPU benchmarks: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/skyrim-performance-benchmark,3074-9.html
WoW CPU benchmarks: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043-20.html
SWTOR CPU benchmarks: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/star-wars-gaming-tests-review,3087-8.html
The Sandy bridge platform is faster in the games he listed he wanted to play. If he can swing a similar GPU to an AMD build, he would be silly to not go for a i5 2500K. The Fry's pricematch to Microcenter puts this within his budget if he buys a 1GB 6950 or GTX 560Ti. The benefits of the CPU would outweigh the slight hit in GPU power.
It's time we all faced the facts of life- LGA 1155 is the clear winner in almost all cases against similarly priced CPUs, except for LOW budget gaming rigs. His is a mid-range budget, so he should get the mid-range CPU, an i3 2100 or preferably the i5 2500K.

I don't think anyone would be able to tell the difference between many of those except the Skyrim ones. He can save at least $100 by not going with a 2500k. That $100 more could go towards a better gpu. But we still don't know what the resolution will be.
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I don't think anyone would be able to tell the difference between many of those except the Skyrim ones. He can save at least $100 by not going with a 2500k. That $100 more could go towards a better gpu. But we still don't know what the resolution will be.

1080p would be a safe bet...
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Sorry but your sensational claims of SB being soooo much better are simply unfounded. Most if not all people will NOT be able to tell the difference between a Phenom II and 2500k in gpu bound games. The ONLY thing SB makes a difference as far as gaming goes are cpu bound games and there are not very many of those around. Yes you did post a shoddy power supply. There are many known issues with the TR2 series. If looking at Thermaltake psu, what you want are the Toughpower series. The mobo you posted also would not allow future crossfire/sli.

I agree, I'm running the 1100T and play all games at 1920x1200 on a 28.5 inch monitor smoothly. Most games use the GPU and in most cases poeple shouldn't see a difference in performance. As for the 2500k being leaps and bounds better, and AMD being crappy, well Intel users should do more reading on AMD products. Heres my benchmarks and yes the 2500k is faster but not by much. So I would suggest to the OP to go 1090T its x6 and OC's high and some of the chips OC higher then the 1100T.

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2620792

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antec 300 with psu

gtx 560 448core

4gb ram

i5 2500k

ASrock Z68

$736.95

add a dvd drive if you need one for ~20

need a HDD but it would be better to use an old one for now until prices come back down
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I don't think anyone would be able to tell the difference between many of those except the Skyrim ones. He can save at least $100 by not going with a 2500k. That $100 more could go towards a better gpu. But we still don't know what the resolution will be.

Doesn't matter what game it is, it is very noticeable in a lot of games. I went from a 965 @ 3.8 NB @ 2.8 (max OC) with a SSD and 4GB 1600 RAM to a i5 2500K @ 4.5 (max OC without fiddling) with an SSD and 8GB 1600 RAM. In both cases I used a 5850 at 1920x1200, the only real difference was the CPU. And no, I'm not going to compare clock for clock because the 2500K overclocks way higher, but it was faster regardless.

I have noticed a definite jump in FPS. I have noticed games that used to be choppy are now smooth. SC2 and most other games now run on Ultra no problem. It really does make a difference. I held out for Bulldozer benchmarks, and then made an informed decision on how to spend my $500, and that was the 2500K. Really ask yourself where an AMD processor matches a Intel processor in games and you'll find there are only a few circumstances where it happens.
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Yes that psu will handle CF 6950's. For sure. But without an overclock I honestly think your CPU will bottleneck cf 6950's.
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Another $100 or so to go with a SB system or . . .


Mobo: ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $100

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 960T Zosma 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HD96ZTWFGRBOX ($110)

GPU: 260 GPU: SAPPHIRE 100312-3L Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ($260)

Memory: Kingston HyperX Grey Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX ($40)

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ($90)

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HSF: COOLER MASTER Hyper N 520 RR-920-N520-GP 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Intel Core i7 compatible ($35)

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antec 300 with psu
gtx 560 448core
4gb ram
i5 2500k
ASrock Z68
$736.95
add a dvd drive if you need one for ~20
need a HDD but it would be better to use an old one for now until prices come back down

Never a good idea to trust a psu that comes with a case.. IMO

Also, did OP ever say if he needs to save $100 for Win7?
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Doesn't matter what game it is, it is very noticeable in a lot of games. I went from a 965 @ 3.8 NB @ 2.8 (max OC) with a SSD and 4GB 1600 RAM to a i5 2500K @ 4.5 (max OC without fiddling) with an SSD and 8GB 1600 RAM. In both cases I used a 5850 at 1920x1200, the only real difference was the CPU. And no, I'm not going to compare clock for clock because the 2500K overclocks way higher, but it was faster regardless.
I have noticed a definite jump in FPS. I have noticed games that used to be choppy are now smooth. SC2 and most other games now run on Ultra no problem. It really does make a difference. I held out for Bulldozer benchmarks, and then made an informed decision on how to spend my $500, and that was the 2500K. Really ask yourself where an AMD processor matches a Intel processor in games and you'll find there are only a few circumstances where it happens.

That's not even an apples to apples comparison. You're nowhere close on clocks and you doubled up on ram. SC2 is a cpu bound game so of course there will be a big difference there. You want to see where a BD matches 2500k in games? I'll get right on it. There won't be much difference in gpu bound games like I said.
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Never a good idea to trust a psu that comes with a case.. IMO
Also, did OP ever say if he needs to save $100 for Win7?

with the warranties on the components i think its a safe bet. Have you ever actualy had any problems with one or is it just more of the psu overkill mantra circulating this site tongue.gif
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