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post #1 of 23
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Hey there everyone.
Recently i started upgrading my system and got pretty much everything new except ram because it was still good usable ram.
( See specs in profile )

But my constant problem is as such.

I will get a random crash/ Freeze out of the blue. No blue screens or the such.

I found out my system has issues when turning on turbo core. so disabled it.
Then saw my power supply was putting out -9v for my -12v contantly so i switched it.
I RMA'ed my graphics card thinking it was the issue...

Next is either my processor, or the Mobo.

Either of those will annoy me.

but has anyone had this issue or seen this happen before?
I checked logs, just normal kernal 41 unexpected restart.

Also, when i run OCCT 4.0, CPU: OCCT it stops and gives me error detected. What and were can i see what error this is tossing?
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post #2 of 23
the fact the power supply is only giving 9v not 12v sounds more like the power supply.

My suggestion would be if you got another powersupply lying around test it and see if that one only gives out 9v when it should give 12v.

if the 2nd one gives a 9v read out then you will need to rma the mobo.
post #3 of 23
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yeah the new PSU does sometimes hit down to -9.66 so saying occt at the moment
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post #4 of 23
Negative voltages and positive voltages do exist on modern day power supplies... But be careful not to confuse them.

Older system buss's such as serial used negative voltage for signaling. Power supplies before the ATX standard was implemented supplied these voltages.

Today -5v is pretty much extinct and is not commonly found as an output voltage in power supplies. However you will still find -12v supplied on modern day PSU's. This is really only for compatibility's sake and is no longer used by any component you would come across today.

Positive Voltages are the primary outputs used by our common PC today. ie: +12v, +5v, +3.3v


The main voltages of which are +12v and +3.3v.

Although some equipment still uses +5v supplied from the PSU, most all power within a PC today is supplied from the +12v and +3.3v output of the PSU.

CPU's used to use +5v for power, this was before lithography and transistor tech grew to use less and less power.

Intel first started using +3.3v with the second generation Pentium chips. This, however, meant that motherboard manufactures needed to convert +5v to +3.3v with on-board voltage regulators. This caused a lot of heat and inefficiency, so +3.3v output was drawn into the ATX spec.

Today, CPU's use the +3.3v in conjunction with on-board voltage regulators to supply the correct power. Which is why we will more than likely see a new lower voltage spec added to our future power supplies.




Having involved more information than necessary here,

Bottom line... don't worry about -12v readings.

Focus on +3.3v and +12v readings. Make sure they are within ±5% of the rating.

+12 V
Minimum +11.40 V
Maximum +12.60 V

+3.3v
Minimum +3.14 V
Maximum +3.47 V

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post #5 of 23
Not only that but I wouldn't ever trust software/BIOS voltage readings.

I'd stretch out a limb and say your motherboard is the leading fault of your problems. Just a simple guess though, you'll have to test for yourself what the problem might be. redface.gif
    
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post #6 of 23
If your not Overclocked, then I would pay attention to your heat and try to pin down a scenario or specific task that will shut the system down in the manner your have described.

This will lead for a more informative manner of diag...
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post #7 of 23
Also,

Make sure you set your memory voltage to 1.65v

Then try a stress utility like Prime95 in blend mode for a couple hours to check for stability.
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post #8 of 23

^ Going by the specs it appears his memory kit is 996972 (as the only Blackline DDR3-1333 kit is 996972 which is rated 1333 8-8-8 1.5V).  Pushing above 1.5V DDR3 voltage should be totally unnecessary.

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post #10 of 23

^ Ah, I missed the lot of those.  Must be because some are discontinued, thus no longer show up on Mushkin's website.
It would depend on the kit I guess.

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