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Analogy is flawed. By your comparison, shutting down the highways would be like shutting down the internet itself. This is like closing down a wearhouse selling counterfeit goods and child porn.
It's be good if users can get the opportunity to get their (legit) data back, but I can't see that happening any time soon.

No it isn't. Megaupload isn't/wasn't selling pirated works. They were providing a venue in which a bunch of law breaking was occurring and instead of allowing jurisdictions to police their citizenry the FBI decided to close the venue and arrest the owner without due process.

While I am in the process of cheering on this type of behavior... I cannot remember the last time I did not see or hear about the police chasing people around and arresting people in the projects next to my office. Clearly, these public housing projects are a venue for unlawful behavior and the owner (HUD) has not taken affirmative steps to rectify the problem. I will be waiting for the FBI to throw everyone out and arrest the HUD Secretary. They won't even have to extradite him.
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post #102 of 125
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Analogy is flawed. By your comparison, shutting down the highways would be like shutting down the internet itself. This is like closing down a wearhouse selling counterfeit goods and child porn.
It's be good if users can get the opportunity to get their (legit) data back, but I can't see that happening any time soon.

No it isn't. Megaupload isn't/wasn't selling pirated works. They were providing a venue in which a bunch of law breaking was occurring and instead of allowing jurisdictions to police their citizenry the FBI decided to close the venue and arrest the owner without due process.

Kim wasn't only arrested for the MegaUpload issues; he was also a huge identity theft criminal with over 45 stolen identities. I don't get what you mean by not giving him the right of due process? He is going to be tried in court...
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I think it would be interesting to see some statistics regarding the FBI’s finding of the data from MU. Granted, I doubt this information would ever be released to the public. But if an audit of the data stored on MegaUpload is done, I would like to see the results of the audit. The findings might change the popular option that the FBI’s actions were over the top, or prove to the government that media companies are over exaggerating some of the huge numbers that they claim regarding the losses from sites like MU. I am not talking about just a dollar amounts, more so the number of legitimate versus copyright protected files.
     
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That really is the best bet; save your data locally, on a physical media. I don't trust cloud storage/computing one bit, and never will, especially after this.

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I think it would be interesting to see some statistics regarding the FBI’s finding of the data from MU. Granted, I doubt this information would ever be released to the public. But if an audit of the data stored on MegaUpload is done, I would like to see the results of the audit. The findings might change the popular option that the FBI’s actions were over the top, or prove to the government that media companies are over exaggerating some of the huge numbers that they claim regarding the losses from sites like MU. I am not talking about just a dollar amounts, more so the number of legitimate versus copyright protected files.

and od you think if they realeased the numbers and they made them look like fools they would give the public raeal numbers lol yea right
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Originally Posted by jellis142 View Post

That really is the best bet; save your data locally, on a physical media. I don't trust cloud storage/computing one bit, and never will, especially after this.

That sums it up right there. Sure it's nice to have cloud storage, especially if you happen to be on the road a lot for work, but you should always always always have a local and up to date backup of all your data. Even if you're on the road, an external HD doesn't take up that much space and if you're working in the cloud you've got a decent amount of bandwidth (most likely) so it doesn't take long to back up any files that have been modified. Whether this action was right or wrong, I don't feel sorry for anyone who lost their data due to lack of foresight. Always back up your data.
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and od you think if they realeased the numbers and they made them look like fools they would give the public raeal numbers lol yea right

And this genius comment. You basically just said "I'll never believe what the government says unless they say what I have already made up in my mind as fact." There could be legit numbers released but because they don't meet your perceived standard of what you THINK the truth should be, it's automatically a government conspiracy and they're going to lie.
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And this genius comment. You basically just said "I'll never believe what the government says unless they say what I have already made up in my mind as fact." There could be legit numbers released but because they don't meet your perceived standard of what you THINK the truth should be, it's automatically a government conspiracy and they're going to lie.

lol i beleive everything my government sais but i cannot say the same about the us. There is always to much blackout pages and red tape. I trust they had a good reason to do what they did but i dont think if they made a mistake they would admit it. im sorry to say and this is not a shot at the us, but i have noticed that they rarely fess up to there mistakes.... however this is not politics....
post #108 of 125
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Kim wasn't only arrested for the MegaUpload issues; he was also a huge identity theft criminal with over 45 stolen identities. I don't get what you mean by not giving him the right of due process? He is going to be tried in court...

This. Seems like a lot of people here don't realize that you can get thrown in jail for being accused of a crime, and that nothing has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt for an arrest to be made. As was said, he'll get his day in court.
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Well good for them...
 
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post #110 of 125
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I never thought of these implications. I don't see this going too far but in all actuality I believe they should pay. Good thing SOPA never went through because we would see a lot more of these issues.

Think of it this way. If Megaupload was a bank and they were found guilty of laundering money, would the federal government be able to seize all the assets of all the customers of the bank, even the legitimate ones? I don't think so.


The part I find most compelling to these arguments is that the MPAA and RIAA have for a long time went about attempting to establish the argument that IP and therefore digital goods are to be considered the same as physical property. I am extremely interested to see how this all plays out now!

    
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