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post #271 of 725
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Edited by Thunderbringer - 5/6/12 at 2:44pm
post #272 of 725
Thread Starter 
Kind of disappointed that we haven't heard from CMCarter since he posted that beta firmware. I'd really like to see the final release come out along with drivers
post #273 of 725
Well final release isnt going to be a ton different. Everything we have tried thus far in decreasing LOD has decreased the performance of the sensor. I am not entirely sure what else you may be seeking from a final version other than LOD fixes.

Now please dont take this as we are giving up. This project is one of our main focuses still as we are still working to bring the Recon to market. Hang tight and we hopefully should have a better LOD solution in the near future.
post #274 of 725
Thanks for the answer! Got worried for a bit after no response for a while smile.gif
post #275 of 725
To be honest, with FW60 and tape fix the Spawn is almost perfect. It just has a very slight angle snapping (either that or I have some extremely steady hands) and the actual LOD could be a bit lower (still on par with what I remember from the Deathadder and MX-518) but 1.5 - 2mm is too low as I find the slightest bump on the mouse mat can disrupt tracking (FW32).
post #276 of 725
Thread Starter 
I don't really have any issue with the LoD, but i'd like it to track better on more surfaces, I find that I still have skipping problems using it on my goliathus control even using it on the black part
post #277 of 725
CMCarter: I'll just like to add that the LOD with the latest firmware still feels better than the deathadder. The only real problem I'm having is the slight angle snapping (still present when angle snapping is disabled) as mentioned above, and as described and shown in this picture: 338
post #278 of 725
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Originally Posted by CMCarter View Post

Well final release isnt going to be a ton different. Everything we have tried thus far in decreasing LOD has decreased the performance of the sensor. I am not entirely sure what else you may be seeking from a final version other than LOD fixes.
Now please dont take this as we are giving up. This project is one of our main focuses still as we are still working to bring the Recon to market. Hang tight and we hopefully should have a better LOD solution in the near future.

I'd like to say I'm very happy with the support offered from CM, you're a tad bit slow, but you've essentially delivered. Like the other people though, for me the mouse could be better with some LOD adjustments and would thank CM for their continued efforts here. I can't speak for everyone, but I'd be happy with a performance drop in order to get a better LOD. I have no doubt tape fixes exactly that, and the mouse is already largely over spec'd for most users (not that you should make this the default, I personally think v61 is an excellent default setting). For the record, here are the measurements I took before.

f32***
Direct pad - tracks fine.
1cd* - barely tracks at all.
2cd* - doesn't track.

f30a
Direct pad - tracks fine.
1cd* - tracks fine.
2cd* - tracks fine.
3cd* - tracks fine.
4cd* - skips, but still goes where i want it.
5cd* - doesn't track.

f61
Direct pad - tracks fine.
1cd* - tracks fine.
2cd* - tracks fine.
3cd* - skips, but still goes where i want it quite well.
4cd* - doesn't track.

I think this further shows that LOD wise, there is still a lot of distance between f32 and f61. I think if we skip down a level where our tracking problems start crop up somewhere between 1cd and 2cd, most people will be very happy assuming the mouse doesn't become worthless tracking wise. (above 3ms is where I think the real benchmark lies for 99% of people, but I'm sure I'll get flamed by people who deem they require 4 and above).

Other than the LOD:
400cpi/dpi - I personally wouldn't use it, but low sens players who can't really use direct/raw input pretty much require that.
Fix the software - Obvious, really.
Done?


* Compact Discs are fairly poor measuring tools (they're too thick, and yours might not be the same thickness as mine), but they're the best thing I got to hand.

*** My opinion is that f32 LOD is too low to be practical for most people. On a perfectly clear black pad, and perfectly clean mouse, your tracking will be OK. After an hour playing, you'll occasionally skip, and it'll get progressively worse the more you use it. Though I don't care about others having the option, I consider it too low personally.
post #279 of 725
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Originally Posted by allan_nub View Post


Fix the software - Obvious, really.
Done?
* Compact Discs are fairly poor measuring tools (they're too thick, and yours might not be the same thickness as mine), but they're the best thing I got to hand.
*** My opinion is that f32 LOD is too low to be practical for most people. On a perfectly clear black pad, and perfectly clean mouse, your tracking will be OK. After an hour playing, you'll occasionally skip, and it'll get progressively worse the more you use it. Though I don't care about others having the option, I consider it too low personally.

Yes, I know lots of people who want to bind and be able to hold down shift and control to the side buttons for Starcraft II.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 Lynnefield OC to 3.8 ASUS P7P55D-E LX Radeon 5870 4 GB G.Skill Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel X-25M G2 120GB; Western Digital Caviar Black Lite-On DH-4B1S Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Viewsonic 2365WB, Crossover 27" Leopold FC700R Cherry Blues Corsair Builder Series CX500 Rosewill Blackbone 
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Roccat Savu Artisan Hayate Soft M Sound Blaster XtremeMusic OEM M-Audio DSM1 
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post #280 of 725
Thanks for all the feedback guys,

Sorry for the delay, I get a little focused on certain products and while i was putting all my efforts towards perfecting the 3090, I was then forced to put some of my attention on my Keyboard line and makes sure they launched properly.

I will do my best to work on the Software, I know its buggy and limited but you will see vast improvements in our software sets in the near future. This will include going back and fixing old software with issues.

I will do my best to get the features everyone has requested placed into the UI's we provide, and continue to work on the 3090 tweaks.

As for everyone using version 60 on here, attempt version 61 which should have improved the angle snapping.

F/W 61 can be found here:

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/download.php?action=ViewDownload&id=328
Edited by CMCarter - 5/9/12 at 11:56am
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