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I just used silicone as a temporary solution for this problem. There is a slight watermark down a specific area of the bottom of the reservoir so I made sure to silicone the outside as a temporary solution. In a few months I will plan to take it all apart, clean the system, implement new tubing (what I have isn't quite flexible) along with a new reservoir, possibly in a 5.25" bay.
I hope it holds.

sounds great, If your silicone fail, go to your local hardware store(lowes, home depot, plumbing stores, etc) and buy some "teflon tape" (fairly cheap ~2$) 2 to 3 pass with teflon around the threads will be plenty. (don't know if ek recommends it, but certainly will stop the leak and is a great alternative for the time being, goodluck!)
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I'm very confused at this point.

I siliconed the reservoir as stated. I filled it up to 3/4 of the way which must be at least 100mL of water since the reservoir's capacity is 150mL. Two days later I look again and it's back down to 1/4 full. This time, however, I saw no visible drop marks on the paper towels that were placed below the reservoir. You would think that if over 100mL of water was leaking over a two day time period one would notice this at least somewhere within the case, wouldn't you? The reservoir from what I can see is completely dry on the bottom where it has been siliconed.

I checked all connections/bits since they are somewhat dusty and none of them even had a trace of leakage. The CPU block over the graphics cards was completely dry and there are no visible drop marks anywhere on the cards backplates.

I removed the plug on the top of the reservoir as a theory of mine that the inner pressure may have forced the water to squeeze out of the reservoir when the computer is shut off because the water in the reservoir rises. This also did not solve my problem.

Therefore, I have a 100mL leak per day or two without any evidence whatsoever. The only trace of anything that I have to solve this issue is a light "squishing" noise coming from my pump every couple of minutes or so when listening very closely. However, I cannot see any leaks on the case floor so I am not sure where the water is going.

Is there a secret loop monster or something that drinks the water because I am at a huge loss...again. mad.gif
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I'm very confused at this point.
I siliconed the reservoir as stated. I filled it up to 3/4 of the way which must be at least 100mL of water since the reservoir's capacity is 150mL. Two days later I look again and it's back down to 1/4 full. This time, however, I saw no visible drop marks on the paper towels that were placed below the reservoir. You would think that if over 100mL of water was leaking over a two day time period one would notice this at least somewhere within the case, wouldn't you? The reservoir from what I can see is completely dry on the bottom where it has been siliconed.
I checked all connections/bits since they are somewhat dusty and none of them even had a trace of leakage. The CPU block over the graphics cards was completely dry and there are no visible drop marks anywhere on the cards backplates.
I removed the plug on the top of the reservoir as a theory of mine that the inner pressure may have forced the water to squeeze out of the reservoir when the computer is shut off because the water in the reservoir rises. This also did not solve my problem.
Therefore, I have a 100mL leak per day or two without any evidence whatsoever. The only trace of anything that I have to solve this issue is a light "squishing" noise coming from my pump every couple of minutes or so when listening very closely. However, I cannot see any leaks on the case floor so I am not sure where the water is going.
Is there a secret loop monster or something that drinks the water because I am at a huge loss...again. mad.gif

Has to be leaking somewhere else other than reservoir, keep seraching!
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I really need some help here guys, please chime in.

I just checked again and everything is dry! There is absolutely NO trace of anything wet inside of the computer, at all.

Here's my loop:

#1: Reservoir outlet on bottom of reservoir flows down into pump inlet
#2: Pump outlet pumps upward into radiator inlet on top of case
#3: Radiator outlet pumps over to 2nd radiators inlet on other side of case
#4: 2nd radiators outlet pumps into CPU block inlet
#5: CPU block outlet pumps into GPU dual block inlet
#6: GPU dual block outlet pumps back over to reservoir
---
Loop complete.

What really concerns me right now is the sound coming from the pump. I have neglected to inform any of you that I am using an EK dual pump with the housing, and this is what I am concerned about. It is not leaking and there are no visible signs of water there at all either, and no signs of any water leakage either, but there is a noticeable squishing sound only from #1 on my loop, which is about a 4" piece of tubing.

My only other theory is that a radiator is dripping every few minutes and the fan is blowing it out so there is no trace of it - but even then I would think that I would notice some sort of water trail on a bit or tubing, but it's literally coated with a light layer of dust.
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Get some picture, it may spark some ideas
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Bit of a stretch here.... but lets go through the obvious.

- you are 100% sure you have completely filled the system
- on that assumption
- take strips of paper towel, small and thin enough to "wrap" around each and every connection and point of possible leakage
- on those strips of paper take a black or blue water based marker (like those kids use) and mark a line or two along the length of the paper
- concept being that if there is even a small leak, the ink will show signs of leakage
- wrap those strips on the connections / points of interest
- disconnect your fans
- just run your pump(s) for however long you feel you can bare. I would run it 24 hrs and check every once and awhile for leaks.

that is what I would do in your situation.
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Bit of a stretch here.... but lets go through the obvious.
- you are 100% sure you have completely filled the system
- on that assumption
- take strips of paper towel, small and thin enough to "wrap" around each and every connection and point of possible leakage
- on those strips of paper take a black or blue water based marker (like those kids use) and mark a line or two along the length of the paper
- concept being that if there is even a small leak, the ink will show signs of leakage
- wrap those strips on the connections / points of interest
- disconnect your fans
- just run your pump(s) for however long you feel you can bare. I would run it 24 hrs and check every once and awhile for leaks.
that is what I would do in your situation.

This was just what I needed and I did exactly that. My temps rose and I isolated it to one side of my M8 so I could turn the rest of the fans on.

After a couple of hours there was wetness below the reservoir. I attributed it to one of three things: the reservoir, the radiator (inlets are above on top of case) or the pump housing.

I checked again and the water was actually flowing down the case toward the back. I was looking for what it could be when I saw a droplet fall and was like OMG!? Where did that come from. I sat there again and over the course of 5 minutes saw a few more droplets fall. I thought it may have been the outlet bit on the bottom of the reservoir but nope. I felt around everywhere and couldn't feel wetness.

Eventually I pulled the entire reservoir out of where it was encased and felt around the back side and low and behold it was wet. As a matter of fact, you could see the stupid EK piece of junk with a droplet of water on the bottom ready to fall off. Ridiculous. I put a paper towel down but it's already quite wet - but as long as it sops it up it'll be fine. The fans are on now so I'm sure it'll keep things nice and dry like usual.

Out of curiosity, and I know this is going to get a lot of "Don't do that, you're an idiot." responses but what happens if you don't run your pump and let the water sit in the loop for a certain period of time?

Now I just need to wait for my Danger Den reservoir, some more flexible tubing (please see my post about Norprene) and a new case to house this all in and I'll be a happy camper. thumb.gif

My poor M8 hinge fell off too as I opened the door. I was very sad. It can be easily placed back on but I have no idea where the damn screws went! Finding black screws on a black carpet is a bit of a challenge.
Edited by xyeLz - 2/22/12 at 7:40pm
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This was just what I needed and I did exactly that. My temps rose and I isolated it to one side of my M8 so I could turn the rest of the fans on.
After a couple of hours there was wetness below the reservoir. I attributed it to one of three things: the reservoir, the radiator (inlets are above on top of case) or the pump housing.
I checked again and the water was actually flowing down the case toward the back. I was looking for what it could be when I saw a droplet fall and was like OMG!? Where did that come from. I sat there again and over the course of 5 minutes saw a few more droplets fall. I thought it may have been the outlet bit on the bottom of the reservoir but nope. I felt around everywhere and couldn't feel wetness.
Eventually I pulled the entire reservoir out of where it was encased and felt around the back side and low and behold it was wet. As a matter of fact, you could see the stupid EK piece of junk with a droplet of water on the bottom ready to fall off. Ridiculous. I put a paper towel down but it's already quite wet - but as long as it sops it up it'll be fine. The fans are on now so I'm sure it'll keep things nice and dry like usual.
Out of curiosity, and I know this is going to get a lot of "Don't do that, you're an idiot." responses but what happens if you don't run your pump and let the water sit in the loop for a certain period of time?
Now I just need to wait for my Danger Den reservoir, some more flexible tubing (please see my post about Norprene) and a new case to house this all in and I'll be a happy camper. thumb.gif
My poor M8 hinge fell off too as I opened the door. I was very sad. It can be easily placed back on but I have no idea where the damn screws went! Finding black screws on a black carpet is a bit of a challenge.

Glad you nail the culprit,
Just cap off the expose tubing , should be fine if the loops sit without flow. mine sit for periods of time(3week~ month) when I'm out of town. As for the lost screw, get a magnet and run through the carpet will be easy find.
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Glad you nail the culprit,
Just cap off the expose tubing , should be fine if the loops sit without flow. mine sit for periods of time(3week~ month) when I'm out of town. As for the lost screw, get a magnet and run through the carpet will be easy find.

Thanks. biggrin.gif +rep

I found one screw but the other is missing. Oh the frustration is kicking in now.

I may make a separate post on this topic for others to see, but thank you!
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