Where are your benchmarks?
If I do so remember correctly you came into this thread with the specific promise that you would provide us with your benchmarks. Instead, you provided us with benchmarks from three sites, and that could be perfectly reasonable - but 1. you failed to provide us with your so-promised benchmarks, and 2.n one of those reviews have to do with the AM3 platform - and only one links to/references a review that has anything to do with the AM3 platform (and I'm curious why you didn't link directly to that in support of providing the OP with some actually useful information). That review uses a C2 revision processor with a relatively undeveloped IMC with memory speeds no higher than 1600Mhz. No significant processor overclocks or CPU-NB overclocks were taken into account with those tests, where the performance differences associated with bandwidth increase from tweaking RAM can be amplified by the increase in throughput for both the CPU and the IMC. Most AMD K10 based processors now cell with a C3 revision IMC which allows for higher memory speeds.
Some of the benchmarks are also ridiculous; I'm a video editor and I can tell you straight up that video editing is a process and is not something you can measure by how much time it takes to run a specific list of tasks. Where I may be editing several large and small high definition video files that have to constantly be accessed, moved around, and copied in memory, I find that the extra bandwidth and lowered latency I get from my own higher-performance memory setup (which was purchased during a time when performance memory came at a lot less of a premium) is really helpful.
Now, where have you been? damric provided his benchmarks as promised, that show a helpful gain in minimal as well as average framerates. Again, if I do so remember correctly you came into this thread with the specific promise that you would provide us with your benchmarks..... /etc/
I find it also to be very hypocritical to be calling us out on using opinions in this argument when you are using several opinions of your own. There is obviously a difference between what you consider to be "tangible" and what we consider to be "tangible", as there is no general definition of "tangible". I know some people who revel at the idea of a 3 FPS increase in a game's minimum FPS. There is also a difference between what you might consider a "real world" app and what we do as "real world" tasks with "real world" apps. There's not really any way to tell, and I wouldn't be making that generalization and would instead be asking the OP those questions.
This doesn't seem to be about showing us the proper examples so much as I thought, nor helping out the OP who obviously seems to have indeed seen a performance increase through the increase in bandwidth provided by further timings and CPU-NB tweaks. You'll just have to take his word for it; i.e. what I said above concerning video editing: it is a process that you just cannot properly measure with benchmarks of any sort, including with real-world apps. A problem with benchmarks and apps is that they only make up a partial replication of the computing experience, and while they can provide more accurate results they are really limited to being just bases to follow.
By the way, if I haven't already pointed this out, no one seems to be have disagreed with you. You came in with a non-misguided statement concerning system performance to memory bandwidth and we respect that, and if you look around none of us had disagreed with you concerning the focus is on "sytstem" (do you mean, non-specific apps?) performance. I found my own recommendations to performance memory (beyond the regularly found performance standards today such as DDR3-1600 CL9) have been disappearing as the gap in pricing between these generic and mainstream-performance kits and high-end performance kits (i.e. beyond 1600) widened. damric had done nothing wrong by providing his reasonable opinion on a related but not specific-to-yours matter and you had no reason to argue with him and contribute to taking a thread in a direction that leads to the creation of content that doesn't help out the user questioning. I support initiatives and choices that help out the user questioning, and so should you.
Edited by xd_1771 - 2/11/12 at 2:38am