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I have a few points:

First, you have a production run OEM processor, not an engineering sample. If it were an engineering sample, the cpu-z specification field would say "Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz (ES)"

Second, the reason cpu-z originally reported your cpu as the Core i7 2720QM is that the "Name" field is really just an estimate of the processors name based on certain cpuid values. For cpu-z to properly construct the name, it must be updated to have knowledge of a given processor. It appears that the 2670QM came out after cpu-z 1.58, so it wasn't recognized properly. CPU-Z 1.59, which you used it your latest post, appears to recognize the cpu properly as the i7 2670QM.

Now, regarding the bios, there is no need to update it. The motherboard tab indicates that the laptop already has bios version 217, which the most recent version available. Support for the i7-2670QM was added in bios version 216, so the cpu is fully supported. Any future bios updates would be located here.

It is curious that you are seeing drops in clockspeed to 800 MHz when the cpu is under full load. That could indicate that it is overheating and is throttling itself. You should try monitoring the cpu temperature while running prime95 using a program like HWMonitor. If its getting into the 90s the cpu is probably undergoing thermal throttling.

I also must ask, did you apply new thermal paste when you installed the CPU? (I'm not belittling you, it just seems like that could explain the throttling).
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No i most certainly dont take this as belittling,as i am clearly admitting i am noob.

I did apply some arctic 5 to it,there was none on the cpu,and barely any on the heatsink,it all came off with the old cpu.I did run prime95 w/hwmonitor Pro,for 10-12 minutes and max was like 78 maybe 79 degrees.And idle its between 38-43 degrees (some cores run hotter).So i figured all was well,an went on my merry way.But,hwmonitorpro is still thinking its an i5,so maybe i should re-install? I have already re-installed cpu-z..Could it be reading it incorrectly? Ive actually had that with Hwmonitor before...I unlocked a phenom X3 to an X4 and oc'd it from 2.8 to 3.7 and all my cpuid stuff went haywire,got cpu temps at like 0 and 10 and 12 celsius..cpu-z went bonkers too.

Btw,the overheating (throttling) wouldnt explain the cpu always resting-idling @798mhz ??would it?
Edited by dovedescent7 - 1/29/12 at 12:10am
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78-79C is within operating spec for your chip, so it shouldn't be throttling. I would just try running some benchmarks on it like WPrime and Cinebench and see if your scores fall in line with what reviewers get.
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post #14 of 24
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No i most certainly dont take this as belittling,as i am clearly admitting i am noob.
I did apply some arctic 5 to it,there was none on the cpu,and barely any on the heatsink,it all came off with the old cpu.I did run prime95 w/hwmonitor Pro,for 10-12 minutes and max was like 78 maybe 79 degrees.And idle its between 38-43 degrees (some cores run hotter).So i figured all was well,an went on my merry way.But,hwmonitorpro is still thinking its an i5,so maybe i should re-install? I have already re-installed cpu-z..Could it be reading it incorrectly? Ive actually had that with Hwmonitor before...I unlocked a phenom X3 to an X4 and oc'd it from 2.8 to 3.7 and all my cpuid stuff went haywire,got cpu temps at like 0 and 10 and 12 celsius..cpu-z went bonkers too.
Btw,the overheating (throttling) wouldnt explain the cpu always resting-idling @798mhz ??would it?

Indeed, as aznofazns said, 78-79C is perfectly fine, its not thermal throttling. You appear to have installed the cpu perfectly. I wouldn't worry about hwmonitor reading the cpu as an i5, hwmonitor was last updated in june of last year. the i7-2670qm came out after that, so it's perfectly normal for hwmonitor not to recognize it properly. Really, there's no need to worry about what these programs are recognizing the cpu as, and there is no need to reinstall you cpu.

As for the idling at 798 MHz - that is by design for power saving. It's a technology called speedstep, where the cpu clock speed and operating voltage is dropped in order to save power. This drastically improves battery life and reduces fan noise in the laptop. There's no need for your cpu to run at full clockspeed when you aren't doing anything intensive with your computer. Whenever demand for cpu processing power goes up, the cpu will clock up to match, so idling at 800 MHz is never going to slow things down.

I believe you cpu is running properly (my impression is that laptop cpus tend to vary their clock speed fairly widely, and not always predictably). You can always run some more benchmarks as asnofazns suggested if you wish. I suspect the results will be similar to those in reviews.

One more thing, in one of your original posts you mentioned your Windows Experience Index score going down -> that shouldn't be anything to worry about, WEI is a notoriously unreliable benchmark.
post #15 of 24
I have the same issues. I know for a fact that mines a 2670QM, but some programs say 2720QM. The processor came out in Q4' 2011 so it is very new. When you see dips or spikes in the clocks, it is the speedstepping for conserving power and producing less heat, all laptops have that now days. Your processor should say 4 cores with 8 threads in the newest CPU-z and the core speed should be hopping around from 800-3.1 due to Turbo Boost (aka fast speedstepping).
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post #16 of 24
The 2720 actually has a higher turbo boost... So if you got that, then I'd be happier. Cause the 2670 has a 3.1ghz TB and the 2720 has a 3.3ghz TB... Just saying.
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thanks for the reassurance.I certainly feel alot better about it.And i guess i should be worried more about the end result anyways.
I tested it,and encoded two videos using convertxtodvd (with th i5 and then the very same video with i7) and the i7 encoded the video in a 3rd of the time.So obviously whatever problem i thought i had couldnt be that bad.I guess i just wanted statistical evidence that my new chip rocks hardcore is all.Lol .I should be happy this even runs at all, especially when i couldnt get a real answer about this swap working before installing the chip from anyone,including asus.In the end an extreme performance upgrade from the i5,which i was very unhappy with coming from having an i7 oc'd desktop.Now i have a compact version for roughly $600 and it cranks.Very happy now.Of course untill Ivy bridge rolleyes.gif
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thanks for the reassurance.I certainly feel alot better about it.And i guess i should be worried more about the end result anyways.
I tested it,and encoded two videos using convertxtodvd (with th i5 and then the very same video with i7) and the i7 encoded the video in a 3rd of the time.So obviously whatever problem i thought i had couldnt be that bad.I guess i just wanted statistical evidence that my new chip rocks hardcore is all.Lol .I should be happy this even runs at all, especially when i couldnt get a real answer about this swap working before installing the chip from anyone,including asus.In the end an extreme performance upgrade from the i5,which i was very unhappy with coming from having an i7 oc'd desktop.Now i have a compact version for roughly $600 and it cranks.Very happy now.Of course untill Ivy bridge rolleyes.gif

Yea my laptop was a huge upgrade over my rig actually.
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Yea my laptop was a huge upgrade over my rig actually.

Wondering,did your laptop come stock this way? I wish i had discreet graphics..Maybe i can squeeze it in???? I dont think so but ya never know...

One thing i do know,if i were you id slap an ssd in that baby...You wanna talk about screaming?This thing (laptop) boots in like 7 seconds no lie!
Edited by dovedescent7 - 1/29/12 at 10:09am
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Yea my laptop was a huge upgrade over my rig actually.

Wondering,did your laptop come stock this way? I wish i had discreet graphics..Maybe i can squeeze it in???? I dont think so but ya never know...

Mine came with the 560m and 2670QM. I don't think you can put anything in to yours since pretty much any laptop that comes with integrated doesn't have a discrete option unless it has optimus. I have a G74Sx, plays games better than my rig did but even it has the gpu soldered to the board BUT it still is discrete.

What model is your laptop?

EDIT: Oh a K53e, yea it looks like it only has integrated.
Edited by Grath - 1/29/12 at 10:17am
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