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I'm looking at buying a <$80 2x4gb kit of 2133 for my 2600k but I'm a bit conflicted. I've read in some places about SB IMC stress and someone even mentioned that less stressful ram would lower core voltage? Seems a bit odd to me but since this chip eats volts and dumps heat like crazy (load volts at stock of 1.272 compared to old chip which would hit 4.6 at 1.296) so I'll take whatever I can get.

Newegg has several choices in the price range (though really any US-based source is fine) but the choice is less than obvious to me. They have twos sets of Team Group at 1.5v with 9-11-11-28 on one and 10-10-10-30 on the other. There's also g-skill ram all rated for 1.6v+.

Any input or advice on the matter? I've read several sandy memory reviews and threads and in the end I come out less decided on a kit than before I read it.

Thanks
Edited by MKHunt - 1/31/12 at 1:09pm
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The IMC is on the chip, so there is a very close relationship with chip behavior and the type of memory/memory behavior. I.e., overclocking memory will cause your CPU temps to increase under stress vs. with stock memory specs, etc...

Also, demanding such a high memory speed will probably require some cpu-voltage increasing as well. Just the nature of the beast with sandy bridge. I am not sure how much of an increase it will require, but I can almost guarantee it. Also, i guarantee you will probably need to increase VCCIO as well, running anything past the usual 1333/1600, even if the rams rated speed is 2xxx whatever. You will usually need to increase vccio with large memory overclocks or when using large amounts/more than 2 dimms of ram.

I must admit I am a sniper fan.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231519

I would take the 1.6v and slightly looser timings (thus reduced temps) over the following set, although it is also good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476

Will you notice a difference between 1600 and 2133 in real world apps? No, you wont. Will you in benchmarks, yes you will, and yes, it may give you a hard on just like it would for me. If I get around to it, i may try 2133 eventually, but Im currently happy with my sniper 1600 overclocked to 1866, it does me good and I like the drastically lower voltage (1.35) than most are able to run on their sets.
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The IMC is on the chip, so there is a very close relationship with chip behavior and the type of memory/memory behavior. I.e., overclocking memory will cause your CPU temps to increase under stress vs. with stock memory specs, etc...
Also, demanding such a high memory speed will probably require some cpu-voltage increasing as well. Just the nature of the beast with sandy bridge. I am not sure how much of an increase it will require, but I can almost guarantee it. Also, i guarantee you will probably need to increase VCCIO as well, running anything past the usual 1333/1600, even if the rams rated speed is 2xxx whatever. You will usually need to increase vccio with large memory overclocks or when using large amounts/more than 2 dimms of ram.
I must admit I am a sniper fan.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231519
I would take the 1.6v and slightly looser timings (thus reduced temps) over the following set, although it is also good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476
Will you notice a difference between 1600 and 2133 in real world apps? No, you wont. Will you in benchmarks, yes you will, and yes, it may give you a hard on just like it would for me. If I get around to it, i may try 2133 eventually, but Im currently happy with my sniper 1600 overclocked to 1866, it does me good and I like the drastically lower voltage (1.35) than most are able to run on their sets.

So you would choose the 1.6v sniper over the 1.65v sniper with tighter timings? I'm kind of thinking I might hop on the CL9 snipers and just hope that they run at 1.6v? Or do you think the 1.6v snipers are more likely to drop to cl9 or 10 at 1.6? Nothing is guaranteed, but I'm wondering of one is more likely than the other.

And yes, I'm doing this because I want to motivate myself to OC again (currently all at stock) and for the 3dmark11 physics score. All glory to the physics score!
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Well the first link was sniper, the second link for 1.65v was ripjaws. Im saying I would just take the 1.6 volts and by virtue lesser temperature (typically) than than the 1.65v ripjaws. Although, the ripjaws does have some pretty decent timings, but in my experience once you start getting to those higher speeds, the rated timing although "guarantteed" are never a guarantee. I just think a lot about chip longevity and how I can best keep it going without getting any creep after a year or something, you know? Keep in mind too that youre most likely going to have to add VCCIO to get 2133 stable as well, out of the box. Someone chime in if they have had luck without adding vccio to get stable though.
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i had no problems with team RAms
9-10-9-28
run @ 1.72v
vtt @ 1.12
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i had no problems with team RAms
9-10-9-28
run @ 1.72v

Wait, you run your ram at 1.72v....?
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Wait, you run your ram at 1.72v....?

Nothing wrong with that on an AMD platform.
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Nothing wrong with that on an AMD platform.

Personally I would have some reservations about the longevity of my components with that much voltage, regardless of manufacturer or cpu.
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Personally I would have some reservations about the longevity of my components with that much voltage, regardless of manufacturer or cpu.

I had my AMD rig for about 8 - 9 months running some CL9 1.65v stuff at 1.71v with tighter timings/higher speed. I'm still using it now but it's running lower voltage of course since I'm on SB. (1.55v)/ 1600. I think I wouldn't go over 1.75v with DDR3 for AMD, and I wouldn't ever go over 1.6v for SB especially considering the max rated for SB is 1.5v according to Intel.
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