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First thing, I'm in Canada so funds are in CDN please. Obviously this means the site has to ship to Canada. $300 is the Max... period Including shipping and taxes (15%). MIR can be included to lower the price into the budget.

This is for a parents build... I'm sick of fixing their old P4 Dell. They don't need anything special, just something that would last them a few years.

Requirements:
CPU: AMD please. Dual core would be fine. Tri or higher would be a plus.
Motherboard: Any good enough quality board would work. IGP would be best, they don't need anything powerful (facebook and email)
Ram: Any decent ram would be fine, don't need anything special. Cheaper the better.
HDD: They barely ever used their 20GB HDD... so I was wondering... should I swing an SSD in there? Likely not, but if the price is right on a 60GB and it can fit in budget I'd take suggestions. Other than that, a Blue at least and capacity is really a non-factor... cheapest I can go without losing out on price/GB.
Case: Something small, doesn't have to be tiny, a small mid-sized would be fine. Nothing flashy please, though if its cheap, cheap works. PSU incl. only if of acceptable quality.
PSU: Anything cheap but decent quality.
GPU: Most likely going to be IGP, unless theres a decent low end card at a hard to pass up price, to give a slight bump in performance, and free up ram, though that shouldn't be an issue.

Nothing else needed. Barebones kits are acceptable. I'm looking for best Price / Performance ratio I can get. I would love to swing an A series APU if its ever possible on this budget.

Thanks to any and all who decide to lend their help. Cheers!
Edited by Fuell - 1/27/12 at 7:57pm
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Ever thought about AMD Zacate?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128468

Do go for SSD in this case.
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I think he should get an athlon x2 rather than an e-350, it's a lot more futureproofed.
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Buy whatever from a Canadian retailer such as ncix.ca for the best price.  Try to avoid American ship-to-Canada retailers like Newegg.ca that charge expensive shipping.  If anything, you can price match to Newegg.ca prices.  Avoid barebones kits as well as they will not give you the best deals nor practicality.


Go with a small form factor case/PSU.

 

Suggestions ahoy:

AMD A6 3500 triple core + Radeon HD 6530D APU - $84.53 shipped [DirectCanada]

Gigabyte GA-A55M-S2V - $68.60 price matched [NCIX]

Crucial generic 2x2GB DDR3-1333 kit - $19 [NCIX] - There might be minimal RAM bandwidth bottleneck for the A6 triple core APU (1600Mhz is preferable for higher end APUs becaues the CPU & GPU both need the bandwidth) but this kit looks to be on clearance hence the very low pricing so I'm suggesting it to keep within budget.

Apex DM-317 - $37 shipped [DirectCanada] - this is an mATX small form factor case with a decent included PSU.  I've used this combo.

Patriot 64GB SATAII SSD refurb model - $55 + $4 shipping [Directron], taxes don't apply - I actually ordered the 32GB variant of this just recently for $29 + $4 shipping on Directron.  These Patriot SSDs are probably the best budget SSD deal available; it is apparently an Indilinx controller which is not bad at all.  Older, but not bad.

 

Total cost inital - $269.13

Total tax (assuming 5% but if you're in BC like me or Ontario that might be different) - $25.09

Expedited Shipping - $7.50

 

Cost - $300.72 (I'm sure you can cough up an extra 72 cents tongue.gif)

From my evaluation, this is your best option for price
.

 

That is, if you don't wish to look into the used market devil-smiley-019.gif (I've built my dad an entire CAD workstation PC with a Q6600 OCed, ASUS P5K-E Wi-fi mobo, 4GB RAM, nVidia Quadro FX card, OCZ Vendetta cooler, 500GB HDD in an Antec P180 for well under $300, the used market can be awesome sometimes tongue.gif)


Edited by xd_1771 - 1/27/12 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by trumpet-205 View Post

Ever thought about AMD Zacate?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128468
Do go for SSD in this case.

I'm weary of the E-350.... it doesn't have a great deal of horsepower... though they don't need it... Just hoping for something a little more powerful, though it will be a backup idea to explore... I'll look into how well they OC.
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I think he should get an athlon x2 rather than an e-350, it's a lot more futureproofed.

Yea, I was hoping for a high clocked dual or tri... doubt they'd need to go quad... they'd feel the mhz b4 the cores I'd say... but likely neight heh.
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Buy whatever from a Canadian retailer such as ncix.ca for the best price.  Try to avoid American ship-to-Canada retailers like Newegg.ca that charge expensive shipping.  If anything, you can price match to Newegg.ca prices.  Avoid barebones kits as well as they will not give you the best deals nor practicality.


Go with a small form factor case/PSU.

Some barebones kits are ok... I've seen some decent ones on tiger that have tri and quad Athlon ii's but the mobo is hit or miss, usually low quality and the PSU's are almost always questionable... Ram can be ok sometimes... they don't need gaming quality...
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I'm weary of the E-350.... it doesn't have a great deal of horsepower... though they don't need it... Just hoping for something a little more powerful, though it will be a backup idea to explore... I'll look into how well they OC.

Zacate will definitely be an upgrade to P4.
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^ Yeah, hence not practical.  Mobo is meh (they almost always are low end mobos that do not offer HD video playback) plus the PSUs are actually dangerous to be using tongue.gif

Barebone kits are not really designed for the end user since they almost always include ridiculously low quality parts and some items that are redundant (i.e. who needs 8GB RAM for this kind of build anyway, might as well put that money into an HDD) and many of the parts end up replaced by others (i.e. more acceptable PSUs) which inflate the end cost.

 

i.e. look at this one.  It's actually out of your budget bar the rebates and still doesn't live up to the functionality of my suggestion above since the PSU, RAM, mobo, integrated graphics particularly (no fully accelerated HD video playback which I consider a minimum on all modern PCs -  much less HD 6530D-like capability), the only thing that might be good is that the SSD is a bit faster being a Vertex 2.  But the rest is rather impractical.

 

May want to see the suggestion above.  I remembered the Patriot SSD deal since I bought a 32GB version lately and and suggest the DM-317 small form factor case a lot anyway so I decided I might as well waste another 5 minutes on a build config.


Edited by xd_1771 - 1/27/12 at 4:55pm
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What do you mean not practical? Last time I check Zacate can do 1080p video playback just fine. That AMD Llano build is pretty good.

This A75 motherboard would actually be better, when you factored in MIR. Has UBS 3.0 for external HDD.
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=62378&vpn=GA-A75M-S2V&manufacture=Gigabyte

Though both motherboards missing HDMI output, something I considered a must for HTPC.
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I wasn't describing the Zacate APU, I was describing the barebones builds i.e. TigerDirect.  Zacate would seem practical here as it has low power consumption while maintaining 1080p playback capabilities.... but for the tradeoff of higher power consumptiopn a triple core A6 APU build could still be had within budget.

 

I don't think this is an HTPC but a real good HTPC would have a sound card anyway which outputs separately from HDMI, to me it's not a huge issue whether DVI or HDMI (they're nearly the same thing pretty much by the way)

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I like the build xd... a little over my Max budget... plus I'm in NS. I need 15% tax added on frown.gif I'll add that to OP.
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