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I've done a lot of reading in these forums on this same subject, but I'm looking for more recent opinions.
I don't plan to overclock, maybe a little in the far future with air cooling, usng an aftermarket OCZ Vendetta cooler, but for the most part i just don't want to mess with overclocking unless i have to.

Mostly for gaming, online MMO's like swtor or wow and i'm using dual GTX 460sc in sli

upgrading from a phenom X4 9550 on an Asus M4N72-E mobo. Older board but I've done a bios flash so it will take either cpu.
I'm stuck with DDR2 800mhz until I upgrade the mobo, but for now, i'm going to upgrade the cpu first.

I know it's slow RAM, but I'm doing baby steps in upgrading, cpu first, then the mobo+RAM later, probably going with an Asus Sabertooth or Asus M5A99X and 8gb of 1866mhz RAM.

For now, please stick to my cpu dilema...which one?

1100T @ 3.3ghz stock, 6 cores (more cores for the future?)
or
980BE @ 3.7ghz stock, 4 cores (faster stock speeds, cheaper?)

Please don't suggest another cpu (damn 2500k trolls) or better RAM....i want to stick with AMD cpu and I know i need better RAM, but I don't want upgrade mobo+ram+cpu at same time.


Thanks for all of your help!
Edited by Ardnas - 1/27/12 at 6:55pm
post #2 of 33
Thuban for sure!
im still running ddr2 as well and it rocks, im at 1066mhz, but i dont think the 800mhz ram is going to kill you atm. also you may consider a SSD!!!
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Thuban for sure!

The x6 it the best AMD has to offer today. If you have decided to go AMD, and being they aren't making the Phenom II anymore I'd get the x6.
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post #4 of 33
you can play the middle and go with the 960T

not sure where you from and if this is available.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103995

i saw it will work on your mobo . . .


http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM2Plus/M4N72E/#CPUS

i got one in my rig.
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If the rig is primarily for gaming I would save the cash and go with the x4. The higher clock speed will benefit gaming more than the 2 extra cores more often than not.
Also, when you decide to overclock, 4GHz+ clock speeds will likely be done on less voltage with the high binned Deneb x4 chip. Some may say go with the Thuban x6 chip due to the better memory controller, but this won't really affect you if you plan to stay on the DDR2 for a while.

As rdr09 said, the 960T could be a good choice too, but in my opinion it would only be a good choice if you planned on overclocking right away. You'll be getting all the advantages of the Thuban core in a quad core package, and a chance at unlocking 2 extra cores, but the downside is a lower clock speed out of the box at only 3.0GHz.

Simpler answer: 980BE tongue.gif
Edited by metal_gunjee - 1/27/12 at 8:20pm
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post #6 of 33
1100t 100%
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Quote:
Originally Posted by metal_gunjee View Post

If the rig is primarily for gaming I would save the cash and go with the x4. The higher clock speed will benefit gaming more than the 2 extra cores more often than not.
Also, when you decide to overclock, 4GHz+ clock speeds will likely be done on less voltage with the high binned Deneb x4 chip. Some may say go with the Thuban x6 chip due to the better memory controller, but this won't really affect you if you plan to stay on the DDR2 for a while.
As rdr09 said, the 960T could be a good choice too, but in my opinion it would only be a good choice if you planned on overclocking right away. You'll be getting all the advantages of the Thuban core in a quad core package, and a chance at unlocking 2 extra cores, but the downside is a lower clock speed out of the box at only 3.0GHz.
Simpler answer: 980BE tongue.gif

He will upgrade sooner or later. Also why upgrade CPU later he will loose money so getting 1100T is better for him. So he will forget about CPU upgrading and concentrate on Motherboard upgrading. BTW I recommend the Asus 890 M4.
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BTW I recommend the Asus 890 M4.
Thanks for the input.

You have the asus sabertooth mobo, yet you recommend the 890x m4.

Why is that? Doesn't the sabertooth have a newer chipset and therefor be better for a newer cpu in the future?

maybe you are talking about the 890fx chipset (AM3) vs the 990fx chipset (AM3+)?
Edited by Ardnas - 1/27/12 at 9:20pm
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Originally Posted by metal_gunjee View Post

Simpler answer: 980BE tongue.gif

This sounds like a good idea. Get the 980BE for the stock speed of 3.7ghz, maybe overclock to ~4.0 if I feel up to it.

By the time I get the new mobo/ram upgrade, AMD will have tweeked out the 8 core Bulldozer/Piledriver cpu a little better...

Any more opinions on my cpu dilema will still be greatly appreciated!
Edited by Ardnas - 1/27/12 at 9:23pm
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I would go with the 980be or the 960t. But really why no 2500k? Not trolling just wondering.
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