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With tax returns coming up, I've been considering a custom loop inside a new HAF 932 to watercool my Phenom II 965BE. Based on this thread, the temps don't seem very impressive. 20s idle and 40s load are what I usually see in other posts. A friend of mine is getting those temps on his 1090T with a Noctua NH-D14 (around 20C ambient), which costs 1/4 of what my custom loop will. I had my mind set on the Noctua for awhile, but have considered watercooling recently. Back in the day, I watercooled an old P4 with a cheap custom loop and my temps were actually better with air. I don't want this to happen again, especially when I'm spending around $500 for the loop I want.

Based on the research I've done today, I'm almost ready to pull the plug on a custom loop and get the Noctua. If the temps are the same, what would the benefit be with water? Do these reported temps seem accurate? Basically, can you talk me out of getting the Noctua?
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At stock settings, i peak at 32c, when the room temp is 23c, on the 1090t
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Thx for troll.
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I wouldn't loop your processor in expectation of an amazing gain, but if you are interested in water cooling it may be ideal to go ahead and set up your loop if you are interested in upgrading in the future, at which point you will just need another block (or maybe not!) I personally think WC loops are way more interesting and exciting that Air Cooling.

I'm going to build a loop in the Switch 810 for the sole purpose of being able to never worry about cooling again. Get a new block when I upgrade every several years and not have to deal with different air coolers/AIO water cooling solutions.
Edited by hstanford1 - 1/28/12 at 1:01am
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Thx for troll.

Not sure what is troll about the other guy's post. 32C peak with a stock 1090T sounds believable to me. My 1090T only got to like 40C-ish with prime95 and 1.48 - 1.51v
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I wouldn't loop your processor in expectation of an amazing gain, but if you are interested in water cooling it may be ideal to go ahead and set up your loop if you are interested in upgrading in the future, at which point you will just need another block (or maybe not!) I personally think WC loops are way more interesting and exciting that Air Cooling.
I'm going to build a loop in the Switch 810 for the sole purpose of being able to never worry about cooling again. Get a new block when I upgrade every several years and not have to deal with different air coolers/AIO water cooling solutions.

But I thought the whole purpose of water cooling was to achieve better temps? I'm just having a hard time understanding why people spend tons of cash on a loop when the temps can be beaten or matched with an air cooler that's much cheaper. I didn't realize this until I started researching temps for my processor under water. I had my loop picked out and everything. As far as upgrading blocks, IMHO it wouldn't be any different than upgrading an air cooler. The high-end air coolers are in the same price range with the blocks. It seems like custom loops are just for the "wow" factor. That's nice and all, but I want form AND function if I'm spending that much money.
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Not sure what is troll about the other guy's post. 32C peak with a stock 1090T sounds believable to me. My 1090T only got to like 40C-ish with prime95 and 1.48 - 1.51v

It was merely a counter-troll on my part. That is my friend I mentioned in my original post.

Is your 1090T water cooled?
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It was merely a counter-troll on my part. That is my friend I mentioned in my original post.
Is your 1090T water cooled?

I had a 1090T before my current i5-2500K. It was water cooled using the same loop I have now. Simply an RS240 kit with different tubing.
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But I thought the whole purpose of water cooling was to achieve better temps? I'm just having a hard time understanding why people spend tons of cash on a loop when the temps can be beaten or matched with an air cooler that's much cheaper. I didn't realize this until I started researching temps for my processor under water. I had my loop picked out and everything. As far as upgrading blocks, IMHO it wouldn't be any different than upgrading an air cooler. The high-end air coolers are in the same price range with the blocks. It seems like custom loops are just for the "wow" factor. That's nice and all, but I want form AND function if I'm spending that much money.

You can only go as low as your ambient, and most of the time you're going to be a bit over. People watercool to OC and cool hotter CPUs than yours in particular. The 965BE doesn't get very hot, I'm seeing 50C area under load while browsing Google. You could put it on air easily, I'm just saying if you're looking at upgrading anytime soon and/or have a desire to overclock ridiculously, water is where it's at. (Maybe L2N2 if you're RIDICULOUSLY OC'ing for benches wink.gif

I'm still a n00b but I'm pretty sure watercooling makes a way bigger difference to load temps than it does to idle.
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You can only go as low as your ambient, and most of the time you're going to be a bit over. People watercool to OC, cool hotter CPUs than yours in particular. The 965BE doesn't get very hot, I'm seeing 50C area under load. With high overclocking cards (SB for instance) watercooling is ideal to keep your load temps down.
I'm still a n00b but I'm pretty sure watercooling makes a way bigger difference to load temps than it does to idle.

Yeah. Idle temps won't change much at all if any. Load temps is where you will see a HUGE difference with water cooling.
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