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post #1 of 12
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Hi guys,

Well, I've been rocking out on my OC'd C2D for about a month now. Its been rock solid at 3.2ghz, which is totally awesome.

What is also awesome, is that OCing from stock to that temp only raised the temps on load and idle a few degrees celsius.

What is NOT awesome, is that even before I OC'ed, the idle temps of the chip (via TAT) were about 62/58 idle, and about 78/76 under full load. That is insane.

When OC'ed, add about 2-3 C to each of those temps.

Are these normal, or even safe for my proc. I called up intel, and they said temps like that were not safe, but the guy was also reading from a script, so I don't know. Should I bother sending my C2D back for an exchange?
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post #2 of 12
well the max is 85c but lets not go there. How much vcore are you usuing.
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post #3 of 12
those temps are much too high to be normal, check to see that your heatsink is seated well on top of your cpu and you may consider using something other than the intel stock thermal compound.
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post #4 of 12
You must remember its a stock cooler and that he is probably running some nice vcore to get a E6400 up there.
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post #5 of 12
I got my stock cooler to stay around 63c with ceramique paste. I dunno if your house is warm but....

Those temps are probably beyond anyting optimal for performance.
    
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post #6 of 12
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sorry, should have mentioned this to begin with.

The (stock) heatsink is seated correctly. I used AS5 as my thermal compound, it is applied correctly.

Also, the vcore is stock, unchanged. the only voltage I changed was to the ram to get it up to 1.9 (from 1.8). CPUz is reading my Vcore at 1.424.

As far as I can tell it is not a case issue.

What I am thinking is that the top of the proc, the IHS, isn't really flat, and not making good contact.

I called up intel, they suggested sending it back for a replacement. I will likely do this, if I get another proc, I may try lapping it and the HSF.
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post #7 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaWaxShop
You must remember its a stock cooler and that he is probably running some nice vcore to get a E6400 up there.
oops, yeah should have read it more closely, i mean the temperature is definitely not bad for the oc on stock cooler, almost 50% oc. Maybe you should consider investing in slightly better air cooling solution, like Big Typhoon or something along the lines of a Tuniq Tower 120
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post #8 of 12
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I am unclear about what you are referring to with the oops. The vcore or what.

In any case, I was thinking of investing in BT. I'm very hisitent to get a new case, as the Lian Li PC-61 Black has served me well and is a good solid case.
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post #9 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Also, the vcore is stock, unchanged. the only voltage I changed was to the ram to get it up to 1.9 (from 1.8). CPUz is reading my Vcore at 1.424.

Um, 1.424 is no where near "stock" for that CPU......the Intel rated voltage for that CPU is approx 0.8-1.3 volts.....most should run at stock setting at about 1.2v.....

I am assuming you left the vcore setting on AUTO which is why you state stock voltage? When you do this, it automatically increases vcore with your FSB.......

Take it off AUTO and manually set it. Personally, I would start all over from stock FSB and clock speed and find the minimum voltage it can run at, and then overclock up slowly to find it's maximum overclock. You may need that much voltage, you may not, but either way, leaving it on AUTO is a bad idea.
post #10 of 12
the oops was actually me missing the part about 3.2 ghz, good job with that. But yeah, i don't think you need a new case, you already have a good one, just the stock cooler is insufficient for your 50% oc
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