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I've recently bought a Naos 8200 (£35 from Amazon, it's still available at that price) and whilst it's a nice mouse, I preferred the Cyborg RAT3 I was using before.

I most dislike the way the Naos left/right buttons sound. They make a satisfying *click* as you press your finger down, but then they make an annoying *thud* noise as you release the button. My old mouse didn't do that, and it's frustrating that I'm upgrading to a mouse that feels inferior to the much cheaper one I was previously using.

Could any Naos owners tell me if their mice also make that noise?
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Yeah, the naos 7000 also has loud buttons.
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Joined the club with a Naos 7000.




Sorry about the poor picture quality, my phone camera is a bit naff.

Very happy indeed with the mouse. It replaced a DA Black Edition and definitely feels like an upgrade.
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Have I been added yet? I posted pics of my Avior 7000 a while back and also made a highly popular review thread on the mouse.
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I'm not sure if this is the right place for this. If not please delete it. But there's currently a group buy going for the Naos 7000 on Massdrop.
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Received my Naos 7000 today and have been putting it through its paces. I like it so far. The shape is not as form fitting as I was expecting, and the smooth surface and finger wrests make lifting it off the mat a little more difficult than I'm used to, but it's still comfortable for both palm and fingertip grip (and even claw) which are the two main styles I use. The sensor is excellent. I didn't think I'd notice so much of an improvement over my previous Logitech lazer mouse, but I can confidently say I have stepped up in the world of mice. The consistency and smoothness gives you much greater level of control, and the speed and accuracy is perfectly natural to me. The software is highly functional and easy to navigate. The buttons are satisfyingly tactile, and the "unusable mouse wheel" is perfectly usable and the slight noise does not bother me. I'm happy and don't feel like I will need to send it back and replace it with the Avior. Solid all round. The only real issue is the smooth texture that makes lifting the mouse more of a challenge, but with practise I'm sure I'll manage. I'll also have more mouse room to manoeuvre now that I have a new keyboard, so I won't need to lift it as much. Plus, I can crank the CPI higher (I'm currently getting accustomed to 2200) and almost completely eliminate the need to lift the mouse.

Pictures along with my new K70 Brown keyboard that also came today:











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I might take some pictures with a better camera at some point. Those really don't do the mouse or my Ducky Shine YoTS the justice they deserve.
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Received my Naos 7000 today and have been putting it through its paces. I like it so far. The shape is not as form fitting as I was expecting, and the smooth surface and finger wrests make lifting it off the mat a little more difficult than I'm used to, but it's still comfortable for both palm and fingertip grip (and even claw) which are the two main styles I use. The sensor is excellent. I didn't think I'd notice so much of an improvement over my previous Logitech lazer mouse, but I can confidently say I have stepped up in the world of mice. The consistency and smoothness gives you much greater level of control, and the speed and accuracy is perfectly natural to me. The software is highly functional and easy to navigate. The buttons are satisfyingly tactile, and the "unusable mouse wheel" is perfectly usable and the slight noise does not bother me. I'm happy and don't feel like I will need to send it back and replace it with the Avior. Solid all round. The only real issue is the smooth texture that makes lifting the mouse more of a challenge, but with practise I'm sure I'll manage. I'll also have more mouse room to manoeuvre now that I have a new keyboard, so I won't need to lift it as much. Plus, I can crank the CPI higher (I'm currently getting accustomed to 2200) and almost completely eliminate the need to lift the mouse.

Really nice and clean setup. Which are those and how are those M-Audio monitors? I'm actually a budding audiophile starting to build a neutral studio headphone collection and want to try some near field monitors at some point as well. Also nice Strat, I have an ESP.

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Really nice and clean setup. Which are those and how are those M-Audio monitors? I'm actually a budding audiophile starting to build a neutral studio headphone collection and want to try some near field monitors at some point as well. Also nice Strat, I have an ESP.

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Thanks, man! I really need a new desk—you can see how little space I have for my legs with my case's width. But for now I can cope. I'd also like to elevate the speakers more by perching them on speakers stands behind the desk. But again, I don't need to do that right now, especially since I have no money left over from replacing my keyboard and mouse.

The M-Audio speakers are good. If you're looking for budget studio speakers that don't require a dedicated amp, they're excellent. Bear in mind, the bass is very much neutral, as in you will not hear them thumping throughout the house like you would a 2.1 setup. They have a neutral sound signature with clear separation whilst still being warm and fun. I do fancy upgrading them to £300+ speakers, but it's going to be hard to replace them when the sound quality won't improve incrementally with the money I put forward. To be honest, I think I'll benefit more from switching to all-FLAC media files. In the past, I haven't been able to encode all my music in Lossless formats due to hard drive restrictions, but now that 1TB hard drives are £50, there is no excuse not to re-download your music in FLAC or re-rip it. There is nothing wrong with mp3 320, which is what my music is encoding as, but lossless is a definite improvement. Also, I'd benefit from a better DAC than my motherboard's one. It has decent onboard audio, but again, improvements can be made without spending £500 on new speakers.

As far as speaker replacements, I had my eye on the Audioengine A5+, but I was put off by their bass-boosted sound signature. I'm so used to a flatter frequency response now (in general terms) that I don't know if I want to go back to that bloated sound again. I can't crank a sub-woofer setup as the bass would disturb my family. The great thing about the M-Audio's is that they can be pushed loud (which makes the details 'pop') without forcing too many bass frequencies throughout your apartment or fatiguing your ears. Usually people consider treble frequencies to be fatiguing, but a constant drone from specific a low frequency can be quite annoying after a while, especially if their resonance clash with objects in your room and vibrate them. I actually broke my old mouse because my new computer has a more powerful amplifier and pushed the speakers louder than they used to, and the vibrations shook the mouse off the desk while I wasn't there and it fell on the floor and broke.

And I dig ESP. I've always wanted one of their guitars, but only recently have I found a use for one.
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Thanks, man! I really need a new desk—you can see how little space I have for my legs with my case's width. But for now I can cope. I'd also like to elevate the speakers more by perching them on speakers stands behind the desk. But again, I don't need to do that right now, especially since I have no money left over from replacing my keyboard and mouse.

The M-Audio speakers are good. If you're looking for budget studio speakers that don't require a dedicated amp, they're excellent. Bear in mind, the bass is very much neutral, as in you will not hear them thumping throughout the house like you would a 2.1 setup. They have a neutral sound signature with clear separation whilst still being warm and fun. I do fancy upgrading them to £300+ speakers, but it's going to be hard to replace them when the sound quality won't improve incrementally with the money I put forward. To be honest, I think I'll benefit more from switching to all-FLAC media files. In the past, I haven't been able to encode all my music in Lossless formats due to hard drive restrictions, but now that 1TB hard drives are £50, there is no excuse not to re-download your music in FLAC or re-rip it. There is nothing wrong with mp3 320, which is what my music is encoding as, but lossless is a definite improvement. Also, I'd benefit from a better DAC than my motherboard's one. It has decent onboard audio, but again, improvements can be made without spending £500 on new speakers.

As far as speaker replacements, I had my eye on the Audioengine A5+, but I was put off by their bass-boosted sound signature. I'm so used to a flatter frequency response now (in general terms) that I don't know if I want to go back to that bloated sound again. I can't crank a sub-woofer setup as the bass would disturb my family. The great thing about the M-Audio's is that they can be pushed loud (which makes the details 'pop') without forcing too many bass frequencies throughout your apartment or fatiguing your ears. Usually people consider treble frequencies to be fatiguing, but a constant drone from specific a low frequency can be quite annoying after a while, especially if their resonance clash with objects in your room and vibrate them. I actually broke my old mouse because my new computer has a more powerful amplifier and pushed the speakers louder than they used to, and the vibrations shook the mouse off the desk while I wasn't there and it fell on the floor and broke.

And I dig ESP. I've always wanted one of their guitars, but only recently have I found a use for one.

Yeah you need FLAC to fully enjoy your files on real monitors like that. What is the exact model of those things? I might get a set in the future. Right now the most trustworthy and neutral headphone I've found under 100 bucks is the Shure SRH440, they are very awesome and don't really exaggerate any frequency range. Highly recommended if you want a really reliable set of headphones to compare against your monitors or just for nighttime critical listening. I have a Xonar DG with a better than average DAC and it's nice to use with any studio equipment. Point of diminishing returns to get significantly more expensive lol. It's a really cheap sound card though so you can get your hands on one for about $30 at most if you are looking to get a better DAC than onboard crap. My ESP is the MH400NT, you can actually see it on my guitar covers on my youtube channel. Anyway I don't want to take the thread too off topic just nice to see someone with some similar interests. Enjoy the Naos. That sensor is gold.
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