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Linux is there for every thing but games in my opinion. It's got great alternative free programs like libre office, banshee, GIMP and many others also fire fox, skype, flash, and even google chrome work just as good if not better then in Windows. I just wish Linux was easily DX compatible.mad.gif

It doesn't need to be DX compatible, OpenGL is just as good if not better, there's just not many game developers making games for OpenGL because let's face it, M$ owns the market. OpenGL can keep up with DX10, can't quite keep up with DX11, but then again it doesn't have a few billion that can be dumped into it's development either wink.gif

We just need the support from game companies/developers to take advantage of it.
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Linux is still far away from Windows/Mac OS X in terms of integration and usability.

Just to clarify what I meant:

integration: There are way too many distributions, and way too many ways to do one thing or manage one task. There should be some standards set.

usability: Hardware support is still not perfect. A lot of devices aren't plug and play.
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Just to clarify what I meant:
integration: There are way too many distributions, and way too many ways to do one thing or manage one task. There should be some standards set.
usability: Hardware support is still not perfect. A lot of devices aren't plug and play.

The too many distributions thing is correct if you're talking about having redundant/trivial variants/spins made(DE's count as a meaningful variant/spin). But if you're talking about narrowing the field down from Debian, buntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Slackware, Gentoo, and Arch then I'd say that's a wrong approach. We need those differences because they mean something to and represent different levels/needs of users. However, creating certain standards that can be cross distro would be nice. Also, we need to make it where things like sounds servers are standardized in general features and ability to be swapped/used while still allowing them to differentiate on other levels.

As for the hardware...I don't think it will change until there are enough people to demand change. Hence the vicious circle on lack of support.
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It doesn't need to be DX compatible, OpenGL is just as good if not better, there's just not many game developers making games for OpenGL because let's face it, M$ owns the market. OpenGL can keep up with DX10, can't quite keep up with DX11, but then again it doesn't have a few billion that can be dumped into it's development either wink.gif
We just need the support from game companies/developers to take advantage of it.

As far as I remember OpenGL has either beaten DX to features or matched them quite rapidly. From what I've seen on a few forums it seemed everyone relegates OpenGL to CAD and non-consumer applications because making things for it was "hard".
     
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The too many distributions thing is correct if you're talking about having redundant/trivial variants/spins made(DE's count as a meaningful variant/spin). But if you're talking about narrowing the field down from Debian, buntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Slackware, Gentoo, and Arch then I'd say that's a wrong approach. We need those differences because they mean something to and represent different levels/needs of users. However, creating certain standards that can be cross distro would be nice. Also, we need to make it where things like sounds servers are standardized in general features and ability to be swapped/used while still allowing them to differentiate on other levels.
As for the hardware...I don't think it will change until there are enough people to demand change. Hence the vicious circle on lack of support.
As far as I remember OpenGL has either beaten DX to features or matched them quite rapidly. From what I've seen on a few forums it seemed everyone relegates OpenGL to CAD and non-consumer applications because making things for it was "hard".

Yeah, I was talking more about spin-offs. And it would be nice to have a standard package manager.
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^ The more you `standardize` things, the less Linux is... free. If one were to standardize it, it would have to be bare bones so that you can make it your own, and not provide DE/WM's/CrapWare by force like most do.
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Yeah, I was talking more about spin-offs. And it would be nice to have a standard package manager.

Got it. I don't know about a standard package manager as that starts to eat away the differences in the distros enough to start blending them together.
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^ The more you `standardize` things, the less Linux is... free. If one were to standardize it, it would have to be bare bones so that you can make it your own, and not provide DE/WM's/CrapWare by force like most do.

Yeah...that's the tough part...figuring out how to balance the freedom and variety that makes Linux great with commonality. I don't think the answer is to go spartan and dump everyone into a CLI.
     
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Yeah...that's the tough part...figuring out how to balance the freedom and variety that makes Linux great with commonality. I don't think the answer is to go spartan and dump everyone into a CLI.

And that's the problem, and it would turn off a lot of people from trying it. But would there really be any other plausible way to do it? Even if you add an option to install one or more into the disc, but then I would be forced to buy a larger USB stick mad.gif
Edited by Shrak - 1/29/12 at 1:26pm
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Package manager is not the problem it's people taking a "real Distro" and changing branding and maybe making a new skin for gnome or something putting it on a website and saying that it is vastly different. That kind of crap gets so old.
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Here are 13 of the best, oddest and most useful distributions that Linux has to offer, and why on Earth you'd want to use them.
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http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/13-weird-and-wonderful-niche-linux-distros-1046624
I don't know why they have a North Korean distro on there but it's amusing.

Not sure why they had to include Christian & Satanic Ubuntu in that list (in fact half the list seemed to be Ubuntu derivatives frown.gif )- particularly considering those editions get pretty wide coverage already. However it's good to see Gobo and Red Star on there (the latter of which I wrote an article on myself a couple of years ago).
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Not sure why they had to include Christian & Satanic Ubuntu in that list (in fact half the list seemed to be Ubuntu derivatives frown.gif )- particularly considering those editions get pretty wide coverage already. However it's good to see Gobo and Red Star on there (the latter of which I wrote an article on myself a couple of years ago).

Well Bodhi I'm biased towards feeling like it deserves being there but the religious ones I don't get at all. But you have me curious as to this article about Red Star. I mean...if I was going to support a dictatorship/bad regime that uses Linux it would be Cuba(now not earlier) long before I'd say anything nice about NK.

Though...I've always wondered how people who don't know anything about Linux know that such countries use it and then they claim that Linux is bad. At least I get the fun of pointing out that the NYSE, and most of the intelligence community uses it.
     
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