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Well Bodhi I'm biased towards feeling like it deserves being there but the religious ones I don't get at all. But you have me curious as to this article about Red Star. I mean...if I was going to support a dictatorship/bad regime that uses Linux it would be Cuba(now not earlier) long before I'd say anything nice about NK.

It wasn't written with any political bias in place - it was written describing the OS itself. Red Star is a curious one was basically built to be an XP clone which supposedly run MS Office natively (I'm guessing via WINE). I can't remember much about the Red Star now and sadly the article is lost in the ether.
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It wasn't written with any political bias in place - it was written describing the OS itself. Red Star is a curious one was basically built to be an XP clone which supposedly run MS Office natively (I'm guessing via WINE). I can't remember much about the Red Star now and sadly the article is lost in the ether.

LOL. A communist country using a capitalist program? Blasphemy! biggrin.gif
     
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LOL. A communist country using a capitalist program? Blasphemy! biggrin.gif


Opensource is often referenced as being marxist in nature :)

 

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Opensource is often referenced as being marxist in nature smile.gif

LOL. I would say it's a utopia of pure competition in which the consumer has full power and therefore price has been eliminated. Don't hate...my economics is rusty after 2 years.
     
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Opensource is often referenced as being marxist in nature smile.gif

The ironic thing is the people who make those accusations (eg Bill Gates) are the ones who are pushing for a "1 size fits all" solution, where everyone runs the same OS. Which is really how modern communism actually works (1 dictator and everyone else is forced to comply).

Where as open source believes in freedom and variety - which is everything that a capitalist democracy is supposed to represent.

I know this is going horribly off topic, but I really do hate the fact that American corporations seems to rules the world. We see it with the combined forces of content distributors - literally the just the middle men of content distribution and consumption - screaming that the industry is failing (through entirely their own fault) because of piracy yet at the same time continually marginalising the percentage that content creators earn. It's like they're intentionally trying to sabotage their own industry. Then you have the big American software houses that apparently get to dictate exactly what innovation is defined as, and thus patent a whole boat load of generic designs. I mean what the hell is wrong with the US government? Is everyone in the public sector that crooked that they care more about bribes (albeit via the legal loopholes that is party sponsorship) than they do about serving the very public that voted them in? And worse yet, all this BS spreads; America threatens smaller nations with trade embargoes if they don't sign up to the same retarded policies. Other countries don't even need persuading - Britain pretty much jumps into bed with the US at every opportunity.

I just don't get how such a powerful nation can make such fundamental mistakes as misunderstanding the very concept of copyright and patents and I just don't get how other nations can be so dumb that they actually follow Americas lead like a lapdog.mad.gif

To quote Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth: "I don't want to live on this planet any more".
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The ironic thing is the people who make those accusations (eg Bill Gates) are the ones who are pushing for a "1 size fits all" solution, where everyone runs the same OS. Which is really how modern communism actually works (1 dictator and everyone else is forced to comply).
Where as open source believes in freedom and variety - which is everything that a capitalist democracy is supposed to represent.
I know this is going horribly off topic, but I really do hate the fact that American corporations seems to rules the world. We see it with the combined forces of content distributors - literally the just the middle men of content distribution and consumption - screaming that the industry is failing (through entirely their own fault) because of piracy yet at the same time continually marginalising the percentage that content creators earn. It's like they're intentionally trying to sabotage their own industry. Then you have the big American software houses that apparently get to dictate exactly what innovation is defined as, and thus patent a whole boat load of generic designs. I mean what the hell is wrong with the US government? Is everyone in the public sector that crooked that they care more about bribes (albeit via the legal loopholes that is party sponsorship) than they do about serving the very public that voted them in? And worse yet, all this BS spreads; America threatens smaller nations with trade embargoes if they don't sign up to the same retarded policies. Other countries don't even need persuading - Britain pretty much jumps into bed with the US at every opportunity.
I just don't get how such a powerful nation can make such fundamental mistakes as misunderstanding the very concept of copyright and patents and I just don't get how other nations can be so dumb that they actually follow Americas lead like a lapdog.mad.gif
To quote Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth: "I don't want to live on this planet any more".

Well that's a lot off topic but I will say that people in an ever growing specialized world tend to fail at seeing variety in anything that they aren't specialized/interested in. Hence why the 1 size fits all mantra doesn't bother them as an affront to freedom of choice...because they don't know of any other choice. They also consider choice to be binary as in live or die, 1 or 0, nothing or everything, absolutely true or absolutely false, Republican or Democrat(what happen to Federalist, Wigs, and the rest?). Perhaps this is why the "middle" is slowly being weeded out.

ON TOPIC: The problem with Linux and why the one size fit all mantra is prevalent in software (my opinion/understanding please share your's if you disagree) is that of fragmentation and incompatibility. This is from a software makers lack of effort/incentive to port programs and a desire for "exclusivity" from some source(IE programs working only for certain DEs or for certain OSes). I mean I would never buy Windows if certain programs/hardware worked better on Linux (while some actually already work better on Linux than in Windows). But then MS would certainly lose business and the same would be true about OSX. They may claim contrary but they are still based on the old economics of providing a product first and a service second. If the US and the rest of the world were truly in the new economic age that I sat through classes being told about then Linux would be number one as it is more viable in a service form than a product form. This is from Linux being much more malleable to a situation than windows or OSX can be. But then that gets back to the whole "compile your own programs or have a package manager grab packages for you" argument. At what level does freedom of choice descend into anarchy or reach the point of not having meaning to the majority of people for their needs?
     
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The ironic thing is the people who make those accusations (eg Bill Gates) are the ones who are pushing for a "1 size fits all" solution, where everyone runs the same OS. Which is really how modern communism actually works (1 dictator and everyone else is forced to comply).
Where as open source believes in freedom and variety - which is everything that a capitalist democracy is supposed to represent.
I know this is going horribly off topic, but I really do hate the fact that American corporations seems to rules the world. We see it with the combined forces of content distributors - literally the just the middle men of content distribution and consumption - screaming that the industry is failing (through entirely their own fault) because of piracy yet at the same time continually marginalising the percentage that content creators earn. It's like they're intentionally trying to sabotage their own industry. Then you have the big American software houses that apparently get to dictate exactly what innovation is defined as, and thus patent a whole boat load of generic designs. I mean what the hell is wrong with the US government? Is everyone in the public sector that crooked that they care more about bribes (albeit via the legal loopholes that is party sponsorship) than they do about serving the very public that voted them in? And worse yet, all this BS spreads; America threatens smaller nations with trade embargoes if they don't sign up to the same retarded policies. Other countries don't even need persuading - Britain pretty much jumps into bed with the US at every opportunity.
I just don't get how such a powerful nation can make such fundamental mistakes as misunderstanding the very concept of copyright and patents and I just don't get how other nations can be so dumb that they actually follow Americas lead like a lapdog.mad.gif
To quote Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth: "I don't want to live on this planet any more".


even tho this was an interesting insight on the current dynamics of the world, i was merely referring to the nature of open source, where code is submitted, and becomes the property of the whole, not the individual.

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LOL. Yeah to be honest it's fine with just the DE variants(thus including Bodhi). The rest kind of just pollute the system.
You're welcome. I always felt like if Linux is the best choice for the stock market...why isn't it the best choice for the science world or the world in general?

It is the best choice for the science world. Nearly every lab computer in the science buildings at my school use Scientific Linux. The only ones that don't are the physics labs, and I'm assuming that's only because they use webcams and can't find proper Linux drivers.


Myself, I'm going to go try GoboLinux.
    
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It is the best choice for the science world. Nearly every lab computer in the science buildings at my school use Scientific Linux. The only ones that don't are the physics labs, and I'm assuming that's only because they use webcams and can't find proper Linux drivers.
Myself, I'm going to go try GoboLinux.

LOL. The only problems I've had with webcams that were of significance related more towards the hell that is sound/audio in Linux. It either works and is the best thing since sliced bread or you'll have a great (sarcasm) time trying to work it out. Maybe it's just because I'm not as skilled as the rest on here but sound is a crap shoot for me if it doesn't work pre-configured.

Gah...every school I've been to in the US(and sadly I've been to a few) avoids Linux like the plague (probably because they're paid to use MS and Apple). Only mentions of it are around comp sci people/areas.
     
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even tho this was an interesting insight on the current dynamics of the world, i was merely referring to the nature of open source, where code is submitted, and becomes the property of the whole, not the individual.

I know. I wasn't intending to go that far off topic nor for that long. I just started typing and couldn't physically stop. I think I have a lot of rage built up blushsmiley.gif
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