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So I moved some parts and put return from cpu to bottom side of res for better bleeding.

I have big problems, first there I can barely fill the res over the top of res as funnel has huge leak, so this is not a problem when pump is running,
however when pump is turn off the water push to funnel leak and all over PSU and little bit on GPU.

sometimes when pump is running air gets inside reservoire and the water goes to funnel even when pump is running, only solution is to tilt case and let water fall to floor otherwise PSU and computer get totaly wet.

So now I have sealed top of reservoir and remove tube + funnel, but now air not get out?!

So I need to keep the funnel and tube and let the pump run, however there is guarantee to be alot of leak and papertowel to use.

Also I have big problem, if I turn pump off then the water push out over PSU as there is bad leak on funnel, so then there is so much air that the water gets pushed to funnel and then power supplie get alot of water on it and the fan is on top so it is not good frown.gif

I now have sealed where tube and funnel was, but judging from my understanding does not work as air can't get out?

Also I have made slightly adjustment to my system as of below picture:

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edit--> so even if top tube has no water during bleeding it gets full of water and start leaking over PSU when air goes to res I assume.
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post #2 of 11
It's hard to understand you exactly since it seems English is not your primary language but I will try.

Firstly, I think you should slow down a little bit and try and solve each problem completely before going on. The first problem you have is leaking from the funnel on your fill tube. That's easy to fix. First, remove the fill tube and soak the end you will put the funnel into in very hot water for a few minutes to soften it. Then push the funnel into the tube as far as it will go. Then turn the water to cold and run it over the connection to set it. You should use two zip ties, and use a heavier type, the one you are using right now looks too small. Also make sure the zip ties are pulled as tight as possible. Use a wrench to grab the plastic end and pull as hard as you can.

You should only have to use the fill tube with the funnel in place when you need to add water but it sounds like you have it in there all the time? I'm not sure why you are doing that, could you explain? If you have any leaks anywhere else then you need to fix those before you go on.
Edited by threephi - 1/28/12 at 7:34pm
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Turn your loop on and off several times, waiting at least 10 seconds between power down. This allows the bubbles to accumulate in bigger chunks and allow you to purge them efficiently.
    
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Personally, I just remove the top of my res and use some extra tubing with a funnel to fill, then when I am done just put the top back on. I ran into a problem where the water wouldnt flow into the res easily with a fill port, so I just dont have a fill port.

The small bubbles will work themselves out. As for the water going back to the res when the pump is off, you could elevate your res a bit to help with that.

edit -- by little bubbles I mean the ones in the res, you gotta get all the air out of rad and blocks by rocking the computer back and forth, and using pn0yb0i's advice
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post #5 of 11
From what I can understand it sounds like you filled the res all the way to the top? You need to leave some air otherwise the bubbles will push the water out the top. Get one of those giant syringes to fill your res instead of the funnel, that way you can take some back out if needed.
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post #7 of 11
Drain some water out of the res first, Then i would unclip the res and lay the case on its side and bleed.

The res and tubing should be flexible enough to make the res the highest part of the system.

Then top up the res as needed thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by pn0yb0i View Post

Turn your loop on and off several times, waiting at least 10 seconds between power down. This allows the bubbles to accumulate in bigger chunks and allow you to purge them efficiently.
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Personally, I just remove the top of my res and use some extra tubing with a funnel to fill, then when I am done just put the top back on. I ran into a problem where the water wouldnt flow into the res easily with a fill port, so I just dont have a fill port.
The small bubbles will work themselves out. As for the water going back to the res when the pump is off, you could elevate your res a bit to help with that.
edit -- by little bubbles I mean the ones in the res, you gotta get all the air out of rad and blocks by rocking the computer back and forth, and using pn0yb0i's advice
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From what I can understand it sounds like you filled the res all the way to the top? You need to leave some air otherwise the bubbles will push the water out the top. Get one of those giant syringes to fill your res instead of the funnel, that way you can take some back out if needed.

So I understand correct tilt the case to get air from rad and block, try to make the air go into the reservoir.

So when the air is in top of reservoir I have to open one of the 2 holes on top of res and fill it full of water, this is called purge?

Also maybe I need to get a syringe instead of funnel as it's impossible to make tight fit on funnel and then I don't think it's possible push it out of res without something breaking because of high strenght use to pull it out.

What abou this bottle, it has tiny needle so it reminds of a syringe alot:
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p4576_Filling-bottle-500-ml-PE-LD.html

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Edit--> Have I understood correct that leaving the system running the small air bubbles collect in reservoir, then I should open the res and fill it full of water?
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So I understand correct tilt the case to get air from rad and block, try to make the air go into the reservoir.
So when the air is in top of reservoir I have to open one of the 2 holes on top of res and fill it full of water, this is called purge?
Also maybe I need to get a syringe instead of funnel as it's impossible to make tight fit on funnel and then I don't think it's possible push it out of res without something breaking because of high strenght use to pull it out.
What abou this bottle, it has tiny needle so it reminds of a syringe alot:
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p4576_Filling-bottle-500-ml-PE-LD.html
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Edit--> Have I understood correct that leaving the system running the small air bubbles collect in reservoir, then I should open the res and fill it full of water?

Yes, you understood correctly biggrin.gif

It seems like part of the problem is with the funnel setup you are filling all the way to the very top and it leaves no room for air to escape so the water comes out. That little bottle should work perfectly if you can get one.
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Yes, you understood correctly biggrin.gif
It seems like part of the problem is with the funnel setup you are filling all the way to the very top and it leaves no room for air to escape so the water comes out. That little bottle should work perfectly if you can get one.

Now when I turn off pump there is no air wandering aroun inside tubes, only place I can see air is in reservoir, small air bubbles.

So the top of res is black so I can't see exactly how full the res is.

So I'm going to make a order for that syringe bottle once EK 7970 or equal block is in stock.

Question: Can I now run the system sealed and use my PC normal, as I said reservoir has air but I'm not gonna touch the filling top until I have better tools.

I don't think that air goes back to the loop now?!

Also I need to move haf 932 back to where it used to be as I was building this watercooling on another bigger table.
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