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Ok been checking over the forums here and various builds. Bad Idea on my part as now
I'm thinking of getting back into it again after roughly15 years or more.

System Case:

AZZA Hurrican 2000 case (with stock fans but not for long)
NZXT Sentry LX Fan Controller

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ASUS Crosshaire V Formula
AMD FX-8150
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xion 1000w psu

its not overclocked at this point but will be once its under water.

now heres what im wanting to do

cpu
chipset
video card

however it needs to be able to be expanded to another card for crossfire set up

im looking for recommendations on

pumps 2 of them
1 for the cpu and chipset
1 for the video card/cards

radiators and reservoirs.

im leaning towards the new swiftech offering as far as waterblocks for the vid cards
so i just need some good ideas for the cpu and chipset blocks.

also need peoples opinions on tubbing and fittings

oh an di almost forgot since this is based on the RoG red and black mb
the whole scheme will be red and black so the fittings pumps res and all
need to be either red or black
Edited by vedaire - 1/28/12 at 9:04pm
post #2 of 23
I wouldn't bother running 2 separate loops, if that's what you had planned with 2 pumps. As long as you have enough radiator to cool everything at full load, a single loop will perform better than 2 separate loops, if your cpu isn't 100% then the extra cooling on it is going to waste in split loops, while the extra cooling goes toward the GPU in a combined loop. For CPU blocks, the XSPC Raystorm and Koolance CPU-370 are two of the popular top blocks right now, once you get to the top 5-10 they all perform VERY similarly and I'd prioritize cost or looks over being the absolute best. Radiators are going to depend on what you plan on doing for fans, as obviously some are better suited to low RPM while others are better suited to high RPM, so I'd need more detail to suggest something.

As far as fittings and tubing go, I can't make any recommendations based on aesthetics, I build my loops for performance and don't focus on looks.
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well once i have the wc in place then the cpu will be o/ced as far as i can take it
as for the rads i was thinking of makking a nice wooden base for the case to sit on and the radiators along with the pumps
will be located in it. noise isnt an issue so basically im gonna be looking for shear cooling power from the fans probably in a push pull config
with the aire all be exhausted from the rear of the base.

and I believe the gpu cooler will be the komodo that swiftech is comming out with in late feb
post #4 of 23
If you're ever using less than 100% cpu and 100% on all gpu's, a single loop will perform better. Even if you were using 100% 24/7 (like folding, for example), a dual loop would only perform as well, there's no benefit outside of looks. You can still run dual pumps for redundancy and increased flow/head, but I wouldn't do 2 loops.

As for sheer cooling performance without regards to noise, you're going to want whatever 120x38mm fans you prefer, Delta makes several that do well, extreme high speed is just insane, high speed or very high speed are a bit more reasonable, I like the triple bladed high-speeds. Make sure to use a shroud of some type, of course. For radiators, I personally like the Black Ice GTX Xtreme, though there are several radiators that are designed for high-speed fans.
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Agree on the single loop implementation.
Just easier to maintain.thumb.gif
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bitspower matte black fittings are nice, waterblocks are pretty much similar(some will give lower temperature, but pretty much its asthetic) since your going for dual pump, get a dual pump mod as well. watercooling is much needed for o/c to reduce temperatures! Its also great sound reduction from typical air cooling. If you have some money to blow, definitely invest in watercooling! It gets expensive but i'm very happy with my investment! Goodluck thumb.gif
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post #7 of 23
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ok so single loop redundant double pump and im think maybe 2 360rads with high pressure at maybe ehhh 80 cfm in push/pull config? for the fans
im also thinking maybe the ek acetal/nickel block for cpu and chipset

and i do like the bitspower fittings.

so now we get to the meat of it which pumps to get and should i run them parralel or serial as pertains to water flow?
meaning something like option 1 or option 2?



option 1:



>>pump>>
res> >rad>cpu>rad>gpu>
>>pump>>

option 2 :


res>pump>rad>cpu>pump>rad>gpu>res


also need ideas on tubing
i know acetal is black so since that'll be the pump color and chipset cover color im thinking either red or uv red tubbing with the matte black fitting.

fans will all be red led types
post #8 of 23
i'd go with option 1 . you might be able to get a tidier loop. thumb.gif

As for fans, I like the bitfenix spectre. http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/accessories/spectre-led

Tubing - UV red tubing with some UV tubes hidden in the case. Unless you want colour in your res. If thats the case I'd go with clear tubing and red dye.
Edited by K62-RIG - 1/29/12 at 4:35pm
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Always run your pumps in series there is virtually no benefit to parallel.
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post #10 of 23
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the reason for parallel in the pumps is a redundancy if one goes the second keeps on ticking with no flow impedance like an electrical circuit where if in series the pump that goes out will impede the flow to or from the other pump.

I refuse to use dyes to many possible issues so I'm thinking all black parts and fittings with uv red tubing a a red double helix reservoir

now as for rad fans since i know itll take some pressure to push air through the raids i was thinking maybe these:
Cooler Master R4 Series 120mm Fan - Red LED

Dimensions: 120 x 120 x 25mm
Color: Red LED
Voltage: 12VDC
Current (Ampere): 0.35A
Input (Watt): 4.2W +/- 10%
Speed (R.P.M): 2000 R.P.M
Air Flow (CFM): 90 CFM
Air pressure (mmH2O): 3.04 mmH2O
Fan Noise Level (dB-A): 19 dB-A
Weight: 116g
Bearing Type: Long Life Sleeve
Fan Life Expectancy: 50,000 hours
Connector: 3 pin
3 to 4 pin Adapter: 1pc
4 x Screws

note the high pressure more then enough to push the air through any radiator.
Edited by vedaire - 1/29/12 at 6:14pm
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