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Hey watercooling gurus,

Been browsing through these forums and a few others for the last couple months contemplating doing my own watercooling loop. Checked through most of the info and links on the stickies and came up with a general idea of the components that I want to get, but am a little bit unsure about whether I have enough heat dissipating power to handle my hardware and wanted to get some general feedback from some experienced watercoolers before jumping into this endeavor. The overall goal of my build is to be as silent as possible. As for overclocking, I'm not that big into overclocking right now because all my hardware (majority coming from the GPU now) runs pretty loud already, but if I'm able to OC without much of an impact on my noise production that I'd be totally down for that until I hit 60 fps on the witcher 2 with ultra without uber at 1080p.

As a reference of what kind of quietness I'm seeking, my old rig which I donated to my Mom for her photoshop rig is a Core i7 920 with a Noctua NH D-14 and GTX 260 with an Arctic Cooling aftermarket cooler with nothing OC anymore, then some Antec bigboys subbed into the stock 220mm case fans. I wish to get to about this rigs level of quietness using the BIOS "silent" pwm settings or as close as possible, beyond that my PC is far enough from me that I probably won't notice it. The reasoning for this is that I'm really into atmospheric RPGs; Amnesia or the Witcher 2 during quieter scenes doesn't have the same effect with a loud GPU to me and I don't wear headphones while gaming. The aesthetics is not that big of a deal for me. It's unlikely that I'd go Xfire in the future with another 7970 as awesome as it seems.

My PC Hardware:
CPU: Intel 3930k (Outfitted with a Corsair H80 ATM)
Mobo: Asus Sabertooth X79 (With the optional Assc Fan which isn't that loud as I thought it would be)
Gpu: Asus AMD 7970 (Stock cooler right now)
Case: CoolerMaster HafX with 2 coolermaster 200mm fans on the top (may change to antec bigboys in the future when bearing fail and it starts to become noisier), 1 on the side, and 1 in the front.
PSU: Corsair AX850
Other stuff that won't be cooled: 16GB ripjaw RAM, 120gb Vertex 3 SSD, 80gb 2nd Gen Intel SSD, 2TB Caviar Black HDD, some random DVD drive, Rheosmart 6 fan controller

What I plan on getting (again the stickies were awesome for explaining all this! Thumbs up to the writers once more!):
CPU block: EK Supreme HF Cooper EN plated
GPU Block: EK 7970 block? (Seems to be out of stock everywhere, I was hoping to get an EN plated one but can only find acrylics; need some advice with how to proceed with this)
Pump: Laing MCP 350
Pump top: XSPC Laing MCP 350 Acrylic (clear) top
Reservoir: EK Multioption Res X2 250 basic (going to put a silver coil in it)
Rad: XSPC RX360
Fans for Rad: Gentle Typhoon 1150 RPM
Tubing: Primochill Black 3/8" ID, 5/8" OD
Fittings (all compression but I dunno what brand to go with) (see attached image for this): 1. 45 degree; 2. normal; 3. normal; 4. normal; 5. normal; 6. 45 degree; 7. 45 degree, 8. normal; 9. 45 degree; 10. normal

I apologize in advance for the crummy diagrams, I couldn't find all of my components in the sketchup library and I just started learning sketchup yesterday for the purpose of drawing this mockup but kind of gave up making it look pretty, but hopefully it makes sense.

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So I guess I think the biggest concern that I have is really whether I can get away with 1150 RPM fans on the RX360 for my CPU and GPU, it would kind of be push and pull, since the case fans will be directly above it from what I've seen in other people's HafX builds. Since I really want to keep everything inside the case, the only other spots I can easily add a rad is where the stock 120/140mm fan comes on the back of the case near the I/O panel; however, the main issue I have with adding the RX120 to the build is how to get all the tubing to fit nicely without adding any 90 degree elbows in. I've also seen some mods which I'm not sure if I'm capable of doing where they remove the hard drive bay and part of the bottom most 5.25" bay to put in a 240 Rad.


The martin's Rad Estimator gives me a Water/Air delta of 11.23 with 1150 or 9.23 with 1450 RPM fans with the stock TDPs with one RX360
or 8.05 and 6.70 if I throw in another RX120.

Also looking for advice on the best way to mount the pump to reduce noise and vibration. I have some extra dynamat leftover if that helps.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice on my build. Looking forward to joining the water cooling community here!
Also sorry for the long post, just wanted to make sure I had all my bases covered.
post #2 of 5
the extra fan situation will add to your rx360 delta a bit so up to you whether or not it's enough....in my opion..yes a rx360 is enough....looks like you have everything else well thought out and your list looks good!

time to pull the trigger thumb.gif

you can always add a rad later if you feel you need it...but i think you will be happy with just the 360 with your fan configuration


the pump is pretty quiet but sure a layer of dynamat can only help
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post #3 of 5
I wouldn't cool a hafX I would take your build and put it into a 800D. Thats just my 2 cents

On the other hand with compression fittings, I like koolance, EK, and pitspower all have worked in my build.
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Your going to have some problems if you plan on going push/pull for me my RS360 in P/P with 25mm fans is about 10mm away from touching my mobo. With an RX360 it wont fit unless you try to fit it between the plastic parts. Just thought I would tell you.
     
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An 11C delta for water/air is still going to give you noticeably better cooling than air coolers, and you'll be MUCH quieter. Since silence is the goal of this build, I'd say you've thought it through well, that setup will have no problems cooling your cpu and gpu at stock clocks, and should honestly give you a bit of room for overclocking.
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