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I don't really care about the Ivy Bridge, when it comes out and it drops in price then I will upgrade but I kind of need a new pc. Here is one final thing that I just need to double check before I start ordering. I am looking at the mobo I originally planned to get ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3, LGA1155, Intel® Z68, DDR3-2200 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /1+1*, SATA 3Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 6Gb/s /3, VGA+DVI+HDMI+DP, USB 3.0 /2, HDA, GbLAN. These are the expansion slots:
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (blue)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black) *1
2 x PCI
Now i found another mobo the
ASUS P8P67 PRO Rev 3.1, LGA1155, Intel® P67, DDR3-2200 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /1+1*, SATA 3 Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 6 Gb/s /4, USB 3.0 /4, HDA, GbLAN, BT, FW /2, ATX. has more ex. slots, 2 more USB 3.0 and is cheaper.
2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x16 or dual x8)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black) *1
2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
2 x PCI
But I wonder why its cheaper. They both can run PCI-E 3.0 and able to run USB 3.0. Oh, and I decided to drop the original core i-7 2600k for the i-5 2500k, good move or no?

I would get the P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3 as it it more futureproof. The P8P67 is NOT PCIe 3.0, while the P8Z68 is. 2500k is good if you do not need the hyper threaded cores.


EDIT: Here are a bunch of benchmarks showing the differences between 2500k and 2600k

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287
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ok cool P8Z68 it is. Yea I think I can do without the HP as almost no games utilize it and it saves me 100. Now one last last thing. The PSU I was gonna get was the NZXT HALE90-850-M 850W. It has PCI-E 6pin power connector x3 550mm and PCI-E 6+2 pin power connector x3 550mm. The gpu I want needs one 150W 8-pin PCI Express power connector and one 75W 6-pin PCI Express power connector. Will it be compatible with the gpu(HD7970) and if not what would be? In the price range of 100-200$
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I don't really care about the Ivy Bridge, when it comes out and it drops in price then I will upgrade but I kind of need a new pc. Here is one final thing that I just need to double check before I start ordering. I am looking at the mobo I originally planned to get ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3, LGA1155, Intel® Z68, DDR3-2200 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /1+1*, SATA 3Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 6Gb/s /3, VGA+DVI+HDMI+DP, USB 3.0 /2, HDA, GbLAN. These are the expansion slots:
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (blue)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black) *1
2 x PCI
Now i found another mobo the
ASUS P8P67 PRO Rev 3.1, LGA1155, Intel® P67, DDR3-2200 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /1+1*, SATA 3 Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 6 Gb/s /4, USB 3.0 /4, HDA, GbLAN, BT, FW /2, ATX. has more ex. slots, 2 more USB 3.0 and is cheaper.
2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x16 or dual x8)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black) *1
2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
2 x PCI
But I wonder why its cheaper. They both can run PCI-E 3.0 and able to run USB 3.0. Oh, and I decided to drop the original core i-7 2600k for the i-5 2500k, good move or no?

Difference between the two is very little. Practically the same chip, except the 2600k is 100 mhz faster and it has hyperthreading. Now, Hyperthreading isn't going to help in games, because most games aren't designed to take advantage of 4 cores, much less 8. So unless you plan to do picture and video rendering and seconds matter, then just get the 2500k. It is really the sweet spot right now.
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ok cool P8Z68 it is. Yea I think I can do without the HP as almost no games utilize it and it saves me 100. Now one last last thing. The PSU I was gonna get was the NZXT HALE90-850-M 850W. It has PCI-E 6pin power connector x3 550mm and PCI-E 6+2 pin power connector x3 550mm. The gpu I want needs one 150W 8-pin PCI Express power connector and one 75W 6-pin PCI Express power connector. Will it be compatible with the gpu(HD7970) and if not what would be? In the price range of 100-200$

Okay, your power supply needs a 6 pin connector and a 8 pin connector. I looked up the NZXT Hale, and it has 3 6 pin connectors, and 3 "6+2" pin connectors. 6+2 pin means it can fit in either a 6 pin or a 8 pin connector.
Look at the connector on the left. That is the 6+2 pin connector. It natively supports 6 pins, or you can (oh god, excuse this reference) "strap on" the extra 2 pins for when you need them.
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Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 comes in the 92 mm fan version and the Pro - which has a 120mm fan. I suggest you get that one. Better cooling with less noise.
The white fan looks cool too! And would look awesome in a NZXT Phantom case.
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Difference between the two is very little. Practically the same chip, except the 2600k is 100 mhz faster and it has hyperthreading. Now, Hyperthreading isn't going to help in games, because most games aren't designed to take advantage of 4 cores, much less 8. So unless you plan to do picture and video rendering and seconds matter, then just get the 2500k. It is really the sweet spot right now.
Okay, your power supply needs a 6 pin connector and a 8 pin connector. I looked up the NZXT Hale, and it has 3 6 pin connectors, and 3 "6+2" pin connectors. 6+2 pin means it can fit in either a 6 pin or a 8 pin connector.
Look at the connector on the left. That is the 6+2 pin connector. It natively supports 6 pins, or you can (oh god, excuse this reference) "strap on" the extra 2 pins for when you need them.
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Ok so it fits, awesome. Thanks. And yea I will probably get the pro edition of the arctic cooling fan since I saved 100 bucks on the processor. Alright so I got everything I needed. Thanks alot guys, I seriously appreciate it.
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I think the new motherboard they have coming out for the 1155 platform will bring native USB 3.0, which isn't available on most 1155 motherboards. However, most manufacturers already put USB 3.0 on the motherboards, so it is a moot point.

You forget the support of 2600mhz ddr3. wink.gif

It's not about necessarily bringing new stuff, these boards will be adapted for ivy bridge and they will have new feature that most people don't know since those boards aren't released yet. They weren't finished a CES so we can't really debate on all of their features.
I know you guys like a LOT to propose new buyer to buy right away the top notch stuff but this is irrational. We are so close to the release of ivy, he has to way only 3 months to have a CPU blowing away the one he would buy today.

It doesn't make sense to me. If I had wait 6 months I would have a 2500k instead of my 750. In his case he only has to wait 3 months MAX.
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Ok so it fits, awesome. Thanks. And yea I will probably get the pro edition of the arctic cooling fan since I saved 100 bucks on the processor. Alright so I got everything I needed. Thanks alot guys, I seriously appreciate it.

Umm... I'm going to say to not get that CPU cooler. The Coolermaster Hyper 212+ is better than that, and about the same price (actually a little cheaper if you look around). And then there is the Evo, which performs even better, and would be on par money wise.

However, if you are spending that much on your computer, get this.
Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme It is $65 instead of ~$35 or so like the Hyper 212 Evo, but the performance is top notch. If you want to get a great cooler, this is the one to get. If you want a very good cooler and want to save some money, the Hyper 212 Evo is the one to get. Either would be great for overclocking.

Also, don't take that last paragraph badly on the Hyper 212+ or the Evo. They are excellent coolers at a great price. However, if it is in your budget, you should get the Tuniq.
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You forget the support of 2600mhz ddr3. wink.gif
It's not about necessarily bringing new stuff, these boards will be adapted for ivy bridge and they will have new feature that most people don't know since those boards aren't released yet. They weren't finished a CES so we can't really debate on all of their features.
I know you guys like a LOT to propose new buyer to buy right away the top notch stuff but this is irrational. We are so close to the release of ivy, he has to way only 3 months to have a CPU blowing away the one he would buy today.
It doesn't make sense to me. If I had wait 6 months I would have a 2500k instead of my 750. In his case he only has to wait 3 months MAX.

Sorry, but some people tried to point this out. He said "I don't really care about the Ivy Bridge, when it comes out and it drops in price then I will upgrade but I kind of need a new pc."

And I think he is right. There is always something around the corner, and unless it is insanely close and will fix some major problems of current gen, might as well go for it. The moto I live by that I got from MaximumPC is that "The time to upgrade is when your current rig is no longer fast enough to do what you want."

Plus, I am pretty sure the current motherboard (at least z68) support the new chips natively.
post #28 of 30
I say get the 2700k. On other forums (XS) people have been hitting 5 Ghz and you would have a rig that barely anyone else has. Make it your own. Every body has a 25k-26k.

ALSO. Wait for Ivy Bridge.
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I say get the 2700k. On other forums (XS) people have been hitting 5 Ghz and you would have a rig that barely anyone else has. Make it your own. Every body has a 25k-26k.
ALSO. Wait for Ivy Bridge.

Part of me wants to say that your avatar brings back memories. In fact, I am currently rewatching the series right now.

Another part of me doesn't agree with you because, I feel that when a person feels it is time to upgrade, it is time to upgrade. He said he wants it, if he doesn't want to wait, it is not like he will be getting bad parts or anything.

Plus, the 2700k is only 100 mhz faster. It is not even anything more than that. The 2600k at least has hyper threading over the 2500k, but the 2700k doesn't add anything of real value. Not any extra cache, not a die shrink, not really anything. 100 mhz doesn't amount to much really.

I would say that once he has all his parts selected, and if he has an extra $50 to put into it, then he can get a 2700k. Otherwise, it isn't worth it.

Now, I would say the jump to socket 2011 would be worth it. Would be more money, but for the price you are going to spend, it would probably be the sweet spot.
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No one else asked why you have 1.65v ram for only 1600 9-9-9? Grab some 2133 1.5-16v dominator kits or plain old G.Skill. Too much power for not enough performance.
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