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Wow, sweet system!

One of these days I will run more than a single video card. I like the all black..thumb.gif

Great job on the heatsink setup too, looks really sharp!
    
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martin, really appreciate your work. have ordered mcp35x2 to use w/mcp350's @ 12v & will also undervolt to 10.8-11.2v to sample noise reduction.

you have mentioned max working pressure of tygon 3603 1/2" x 5/8" as being 10 psi @ 73 F & have checked Tygon/St-Gobain tygon specs as follows:

3603 1/2" x 5/8" having 1/16" wall nominal & max continuous temperature not to exceed 165 F is compliant w/ ASTM D1599 test protocol

pls note rather high stretch & expansion properties of 3603 material/resin compound. it is apparent that in order to permit full function with "minimum" expansion at even moderate temp, recommended working pressure was greatly reduced; ie: working pressures calculated at 1:5 ratio relative to BURST pressure - serious built-in safety factor (if one uses this tubing in pathogen level 4 lab or radio isotope lab).

for pc water cooling, with proper clamping, at fluid temp of 95 F "with moderate allowable expansion" 20 psi working pressure should be safe limit.

the 1:5 ratio (nom work'g to burst) is very conservative.

pls, I would like to hear your thoughts, cheers
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martin, really appreciate your work. have ordered mcp35x2 to use w/mcp350's @ 12v & will also undervolt to 10.8-11.2v to sample noise reduction.
you have mentioned max working pressure of tygon 3603 1/2" x 5/8" as being 10 psi @ 73 F & have checked Tygon/St-Gobain tygon specs as follows:
3603 1/2" x 5/8" having 1/16" wall nominal & max continuous temperature not to exceed 165 F is compliant w/ ASTM D1599 test protocol
pls note rather high stretch & expansion properties of 3603 material/resin compound. it is apparent that in order to permit full function with "minimum" expansion at even moderate temp, recommended working pressure was greatly reduced; ie: working pressures calculated at 1:5 ratio relative to BURST pressure - serious built-in safety factor (if one uses this tubing in pathogen level 4 lab or radio isotope lab).
for pc water cooling, with proper clamping, at fluid temp of 95 F "with moderate allowable expansion" 20 psi working pressure should be safe limit.
the 1:5 ratio (nom work'g to burst) is very conservative.
pls, I would like to hear your thoughts, cheers

That fits what I would have guessed, great info!

I have managed to nearly burst tygon with my household pressure on accident before my clamp failed and I ended up with a face full of water. Reminded me of my teenage years filling up surgical hose as a "Water Weenie"...smile.gif
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We have something like 80PSI household shutoff pressure around here though...plenty to do some tubing damage.

Anyhow, sounds like tubing should not be a concern in the 35X2 ranges, that's good:)
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is there some gag, i don't know about on ocn, that requires a foot to be in all pics?

redface.gif it's a bad joke i know, but a good majority of the pics on here have either a foot or some other body part, i'm starting to think it's mandatory. . .
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Yes, but that wasn't my picture...just found it on the net.

I still gotta work on making sure the foot gets in there more often..smile.gif
    
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I've been trying to find out if a pair of the Swiftech Heatsinks, http://www.swiftech.com/MCP35X-HS.aspx, will fit the MCP35X2 or the pump top with my own pair of pumps.

My single pump is set up exactly as shown, with the reservoir and heatsink/fan, as shown in the above link.

While a little extra pressure would be welcome, I'm mainly after the redundancy factor.

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With enough modification I think you could, but it would require cutting off the overhang amount on the inside with some sort of saw. I have seen one example of someone modifying koolance heatsinks so far. I have heard that they are devloping a custom heatsink for the x2 though so you night just wait a little longer too.
    
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With enough modification I think you could, but it would require cutting off the overhang amount on the inside with some sort of saw. I have seen one example of someone modifying koolance heatsinks so far. I have heard that they are devloping a custom heatsink for the x2 though so you night just wait a little longer too.


Thanks Martin! I was afraid there would be an overlap. I tried to come up with some way to pare a bit off of each cooler and couldn't, except for some kind of surface grinder which I have no access to.

I think I'll just buy a complete MCP35X2, add my reservoir and wait for a cooler made for this pump. The cooler/fan for the single pump is really a worthwhile investment judging by the feel of the heat that is dissipated by it. $200.00 is too much of an investment not to protect with a cooler. I guess I'll go with the white one since it isn't something I want to hide.
 

 

 

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I suggest you use "same manufacturer" approach for pump + reservoir combinations -- swif ddcx2 + swif res or ek ddcx2 + ek res to prevent water/coolant leaks.

Several potential problems of "mix & match" are 1. res hollow retaining bolt (g1/4) extends too far into pump chamber & contacts pump rotor & 2. res-to-pump-top o-ring does not seat correctly due to mismatched surfaces --- zero water leaks highest priority --- pump + res combos same/same best practice.

I routinely modify complex components, including creating new o-ring seal fittings and interfaces --- but I would not mix & match pump + res in my own builds.
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