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In a ruling earlier this week (United States vs. Jones), the Supreme Court decided that attaching GPS trackers to vehicles without warrants violates the Fourth Amendment. The Court decided in a majority opinion that the use of GPS trackers without a warrant impinges on our right to be free of unreasonable searches...


So, no more GPS trackers on cars without a warrant? That's a pretty nice ruling as far as things go. I found it interesting that a minority opinion suggested that they shouldn't even be used then.

In this day and age, with laws passed every other week making it easier for people to invade your privacy, it's refreshing to see something go the other way. smile.gif


Edit: Also, I checked before posting and this is legal and not political.
Edited by Korlus - 1/29/12 at 1:17pm
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Meh. I was not worried about it at all. Don't do anything wrong and you won't have anything to hide. But on the other side of the coin its good to see that a warrant is indeed needed. Law enforcement are the worst when it comes to violating the rights of people. rolleyes.gif
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I didn't see any mention of whether or not this ruling is limited to law enforcement. I'm making payments on a car, and the title holder has a GPS "black box" installed on it in case I start missing payments. I don't have a problem with something like that, since I gave consent by signing the paperwork. I'm just hoping the supreme court makes the distinction.
 
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I didn't see any mention of whether or not this ruling is limited to law enforcement. I'm making payments on a car, and the title holder has a GPS "black box" installed on it in case I start missing payments. I don't have a problem with something like that, since I gave consent by signing the paperwork. I'm just hoping the supreme court makes the distinction.

You answered your own question. This case was all about non-consensual tracking.
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Meh. I was not worried about it at all. Don't do anything wrong and you won't have anything to hide.

The problem surfaces when the definition of right and wrong doesn't come from morals but from whatever another person believes so.
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Darn. I have a few gals that I always liked to track. :/
    
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They can get a warrant pretty easy so this doesn't seem to do much to protect us. To see this ruling after that fiasco with the repair shop finding a GPS tracker under his car and trying to sell it on Craigslist. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/10/fbi-tracking-device/all/1 http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/dmh5s/does_this_mean_the_fbi_is_after_us/
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newer devices are placed in the engine compartment and hardwired to the car’s battery so they don’t run out of juice

I've heard of drug dealers giving you a phone or sticking it under the seat of your car if you refuse, to track you and come rob you later as well.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 1/29/12 at 2:29pm
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I've heard of drug dealers giving you a phone or sticking it under the seat of your car if you refuse, to track you and come rob you later as well.

Well at least now they'll need a warrant first. biggrin.gif
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Well at least now they'll need a warrant first. biggrin.gif

Yup. I'd love to see those drug dealers getting warrants to rob you!

Joking aside, the reason that limiting governmental power is a good thing is because, in principle, the possibility of a civil revolt is a fundamental requirement of a good democracy. If the government has too much power this becomes more and more difficult.

An example of how the law stands in Britain:
Parliament has absolute power but Parliament is split into two houses - the House of Lords and the House of Commons.

The Lords get given bills passed in the Commons to ratify (or not) after a vote. However after several laws were forced through early last century. The Commons has the option of not needing the Lords to pass a vote if it thinks it is important (point of example: The Hunting Act. An act outlawing fox hunting was deemed important enough to force by the Lords after they voted against it) .

I tell you this not about the politics but to explain why legally, this is a good idea.

Ultimately any government in the world has some power to change its powers. Whether it be easy in a system with no written constitution, or perhaps harder if there is a constitution. If they use that "ultimate power" for things against the best wishes of the people, there are methods to ensure the people get their say.
If they use that power to prevent people from getting their say then they resort to revolt. While not ideal it is often thought of in legal circles as democracies' last line of defence, and it is something we should not give up, whatever the reason.

If the government uses technology to keep track of you and your actions, it is that much harder to do something against them if they need it.

And yes, I know that currently neithet the US or the UK needs it, but there might be a tome when we do and this is definitely a step in the right direction, legally.

The legal system is still trying to come to terms with technology in its many forms and its impact on things as fundamental as our basic rights. With so many laws being passed against them, I will reiterate what I said earlier and say that I am very glad to see this decision.
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Tyranny is when privacy is invaded and liberty is torn down in the name of security. You don't need to have "something to hide" to oppose that.

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