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It's hard not to jump the gun on AMD so to speak, it just seems obvious that AMD needs to be manufacturing their chips themselves to keep qc in check. Being as big as AMD is, relying on a 3rd party for parts seems way to unreliable, and my evidence for that is what happened with BD.
It's hard not to be amazed at AMD. With a measly 2% of Intel's revenue they're on the same process and have better products in certain markets(notebook) for the average consumer.
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not to mention that the planet itself is not growing in terms of size and surface area. owning masses of property can never really hurt you.

im sure some of the older facilities get turned into a portion of storage as well. i know that the military considers 'new' to be technology from two years ago... total pain when your all about computers, and stuck in a contract with nimrods...
    
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I miss working in a FAB for 12hours a day 3-4 days a week. decent money being a fab worker.
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Many of the fabs are listed at 45nm and 65nm. I know 45nm is the remaining production of 1156 and 1366 socket chips but what is 65nm used for? Chipsets?

Wikipedia list is outdated, F28 & F32 are 22nm, not sure about the others but probably outdated as well.
I don't think 1156 & 1366 are being produced anymore, they can use older factories for Chipset manufacturing for example
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Finally an American high tech company investing in America. Only if Apple could follow Intel's lead.
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What do they do with older plants such as ones that were 90nm or 65nm? Do they retrofit them for other processes after new plants are built?

They sell it to AMD. rolleyes.gif
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Yes.

nope last one launched with 130nm process?
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Wow, I never realized how much work went into making a new process. Do they make a new plant every process shrink?

No, but they do have to overhaul the factorys for each shrink, which is still very $$$.
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They must have 14nm working well already if they've already broke ground on a multi-billion dollar fab.
I wish they'd release their current tech rather than slowing parceling out past research efforts and producing chips just good enough to stay ahead of AMD (but not TOO far ahead).
I lol'd biggrin.gif

That's not what Intel's doing. There's a very real difference between being able to produce 14nm chips and being able to produce 14nm chips in high volume with good yields. It makes no business sense to hamstring their process tech, especially since they're pushing hard to get into mobile, where every process advantage they can get, they need, if they want to rise to be #1.

Also, the reason they're building this new fab isn't just for 14nm -- it's because this new fab will be able to use 450mm wafers (changing wafer size -> new fab needed).
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post #40 of 50
clean room my friend gets harder the smaller you go so at 14 nm ,i bet it is a big challenge
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