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I'm having trouble with packet loss when connected to some TF2 servers in Texas but I can't figure out how to fix it or what is to blame. The server owner has many servers in the same building running on the same network but I get packet loss on half of them. After running traceroutes I found out that the servers that run fine without packet loss get routed from San Francisco to Texas directly. The servers that I do get packet loss on route from San Francisco to Chicago and then to Texas.

I was thinking that it might be my ISP's fault for the weird route but If I bypass my router the problem servers still route from San Francsico to Chicago and then to Texas but the packet loss is now gone. I also noticed that when I was bypassing the router my pings were lower and without any spikes. For an example on one specific server with the router my ping was 75-80 with a spike to 120 but without any router my ping was a solid 66-70.

The router is an E1000 and I'm running a wired connection to my PC. Even when I am using this router I never get packet loss to chicago or texas servers on pingtest.net.

Things that I have tried that didn't fix the problem:

Changed the TF2 net settings to every possible combination.
Disabled all QoS
Disabled wireless.
Disabled the SPI firewall.
Power cycled everything.
Made sure I was the only person connected to the router.
Other PC's display the same behavior.
Forwarded the required ports for TF2 even though I wasn't hosting a server.
Tried an older router but it had the same problem (WGR614).
ISP did a "health check" on my connection that came out clean.

If I buy a new router would it fix this problem? Both of the routers that I tried are very low end after all.

Please help!
Edited by Derp - 1/29/12 at 4:58pm
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im not 100% sure of the problem but sounds like your isp is fine. so before you go out and buy a new router, flash it to the lastest firmware or dd-wrt and try agin.. that way you dont spend money you dont need too. see how that goes.. thumb.gif
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Like the above poster said if you can flash the E1000 (just checked it's on the supported list)
Could be the load on your network that is causing the Router to have some difficulty processing.
I've had some problems with the E2000 with load on my network flashed it to Tomato and it was rather rocksolid.

Also if you got some time of laptop cooler put it under the E1000 it also might help with stability.


Experience: Past owner of Cisco E2000 (Flashed to Tomato), and current owner of Cisco WRT400N (Currently flashed to DD-WRT)
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Like the above poster said if you can flash the E1000 (just checked it's on the supported list)
Could be the load on your network that is causing the Router to have some difficulty processing.
I've had some problems with the E2000 with load on my network flashed it to Tomato and it was rather rocksolid.
Also if you got some time of laptop cooler put it under the E1000 it also might help with stability.
Experience: Past owner of Cisco E2000 (Flashed to Tomato), and current owner of Cisco WRT400N (Currently flashed to DD-WRT)

When I was testing, the load on my network was just a single PC with a wired connection playing TF2 so nothing stressful at all.

Do you have a router to recommend as a replacement? Something with decently faster hardware than the E1000 for a good price?
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When I was testing, the load on my network was just a single PC with a wired connection playing TF2 so nothing stressful at all.
Do you have a router to recommend as a replacement? Something with decently faster hardware than the E1000 for a good price?

one of the best tested routers for the home market is the ASUS RT-N56U Wireless Router Dual Band N600 known as the black diamond , tho no support for open source firmware but this baby doesnt need it.. thumb.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320062
http://www.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Routers/RTN56U/
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/view
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/31436-asus-rt-n56u-black-diamond-dual-band-gigabit-wireless-n-router-reviewed
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one of the best tested routers for the home market is the ASUS RT-N56U Wireless Router Dual Band N600 known as the black diamond , tho no support for open source firmware but this baby doesnt need it.. thumb.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320062
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http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/31436-asus-rt-n56u-black-diamond-dual-band-gigabit-wireless-n-router-reviewed

It's my fault for not mentioning a budget but that router is just too much. I'm not looking to go from a junker to the best, just an upgrade that will hopefully fix my problem. Maybe something around $60?
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It's my fault for not mentioning a budget but that router is just too much. I'm not looking to go from a junker to the best, just an upgrade that will hopefully fix my problem. Maybe something around $60?

gotya. well then maybe this will suit your needs better LINKSYS E3000 Wireless Router that supports open source firmware but doesnt really need it thumb.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124388
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/31134-cisco-linksys-e3000-high-performance-wireless-n-router-reviewed

you can get it pretty cheap on amazon smile.gif
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=linksys+e3000&x=9&y=14

that is a solid router that fits your price range and meet your requirments and should fix your issue.
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Your router is fine, you don't need to upgrade it, either it's a problem with your isp or the server you're trying to connect. Your best bet is to just find a tf2 server with a better ping, some use cheaper internet service.
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Your router is fine, you don't need to upgrade it, either it's a problem with your isp or the server you're trying to connect. Your best bet is to just find a tf2 server with a better ping, some use cheaper internet service.

I thought it was fine too because I don't get packet loss on the other servers that are located in the same building on the same network. But when I bypass my router the packet loss disappears so wouldn't you think that my router is at fault here?
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I thought it was fine too because I don't get packet loss on the other servers that are located in the same building on the same network. But when I bypass my router the packet loss disappears so wouldn't you think that my router is at fault here?

as you said if you byupass your router everything is fine so sounds like your router IMO, but i doubt its your isp.. it could be a problem in the second route that packets take. that route to the other servers might have alot of traffic destined for the TF2 servers in Texas causing the server to get bogged down smile.gif
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