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So this is a build idea. There would be a 1 tb hard drive I already own and a 2500k that Newegg doesn't offer right now

Also, my build probably won't be until after summer but I want to keep up on things.
Any speculation about the future would be appreciated (7000 series, Kepler, Ivy bridge, windows 8). My budget is 800- 1200 bucks smile.gif
Also all my friends are Nvidia fan boys and keep talking about how much Radeon sucks. Any legitimacy to this?
    
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I am a fan of both. AMD single gpu setups seem to be fine, its when you get into crossfire you get some driver issues. I would wait and see what the new amd cards are like and the ivy bridge and then decide. The new nvidia cards may be out by the time your ready too. I would also look into getting an SSD. Super fast compared to hdd and im guessing by the time you're ready you will be able to pick up a 240GB for under $200.

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Definitely get a SSD if you have the budget for it (you do), it's the biggest single item that could help. I'd get a 64 GB or 128 GB depending on what you plan to put on it. Crucial M4 and Samsung 800 series are good (reliable, fast) drives.

700 W is too much for that build, even if you were planning SLI. That cooler master might not be the best unit, I'm not sure though. Check out johnnyguru and see if they have a review. I'd get a 400-500 W unit if you aren't planning SLI (not the best upgrade path IMO, not with Kepler/AMD 7000 series on the horizon). A 500 W Corsair/Seasonic/XFX/Rosewill Capstone (only this one from rosewell) would be good. You don't need a massive power supply.

I'd get cheaper RAM, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576011 or maybe even http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220570 if you want to pay $2 more for heat spreaders (they don't really do that much now a days.)

As far as ivy bridge, it's looking to be only a little bit better than sandy bridge. Most of the improvements come in the form of power efficiency because it's a die shrink. The integrated GPU will be a lot better, but that doesn't really matter since you have a discrete card. AMD 7000 and Kepler are good/will be good, but are currently expensive. It's up to you if you want to wait for one of those or not. AMD drivers are fine, both companies have gone back and forth, it's pretty even. The 560 ti is a good card though.
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Thanks for replying, based on what I've heard, Ivy bridge isn't really a gigantic jump forward so I will probably stick with the 2500k. As for GPU I am considering the next gen 7850, it will release by the time my build is (November?) and I guess I will have to wait and see for how Kepler is. I probably will never do SLI so I am considering a cheaper motherboard but still unsure. What would be the advantage of a 2gigs of Vram vs 1 gig? On my current GTS 450 I never get too high. So You both recommended a ssd, but what besides system files would be on there? Also I have a Antec 430 Watt, I feel that its too small for a new system, so I will upgrade my PSU, good brands? Again thank you so much for your help.thumb.gif
    
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if you are planning to get the GTX 560 Ti - Advice - make sure you get the 2GB version, because i have the 1GB version from Galaxy put in SLI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162074 and i get limited in BF3 by the vram on the card. it gets... twitchy you may say. although i have overclocked my CPU to 4ghz i still get some flickers in my game because of the limited 1GB vram on the card.

plus if you are planning on getting a 2GB version i highly advice you to get this card since it got custom and yet very effective cooling from galaxy www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162085&Tpk=galaxy%20gtx%20560%202gb

everything else looks good to me. let me know what you think and good luck on your purchase smile.gif
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Ok, Thanks I'm a fan of Galaxy as well. Personally I love my Galaxy GTS 450. I have heard people say its a cheap crap brand though. I'll be sure to look at the 2 gig versions. Thanks for the help
    
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Originally Posted by kylebinder96 View Post

Thanks for replying, based on what I've heard, Ivy bridge isn't really a gigantic jump forward so I will probably stick with the 2500k. As for GPU I am considering the next gen 7850, it will release by the time my build is (November?) and I guess I will have to wait and see for how Kepler is. I probably will never do SLI so I am considering a cheaper motherboard but still unsure. What would be the advantage of a 2gigs of Vram vs 1 gig? On my current GTS 450 I never get too high. So You both recommended a ssd, but what besides system files would be on there? Also I have a Antec 430 Watt, I feel that its too small for a new system, so I will upgrade my PSU, good brands? Again thank you so much for your help.thumb.gif

When are you planning on building? I think the 7850 is supposed to come out in March, I've heard it should retail for $200. I think it's too early for leaked benchmarks (though I haven't been following too closely the past week or two). But if you're building in november, then everything (kepler, 7000 series, ivy bridge) should be out.

Yeah, Ivy bridge isn't looking to be a massive upgrade in terms of performance, but maybe if you're looking to fold it will be pretty good because of the power savings. It should be the same cost as the current chips (the 3570k, 2500k's equivalent will be $10 more or something, but that's the only difference so far).

If you aren't planning SLI, you can definitely step down in motherboards, but most of 'em have 2 PCIE slots anyway, unless you're looking for a mATX board. Though the board you picked out isn't a bad buy at all, you could save maybe $10 by getting a cheaper one, might not be as worth it.

VRAM really only makes a difference in large resolutions (larger than 1920x1020 and 1920x1200), if you're playing on either of those or smaller, 1 GB is enough and more won't make a difference.

For the SSD, put whatever you use most often on it. I have windows7 on mine, firefox, MS office programs, various drivers, and that's it for now. I use about 40 GB with just those. Games with a lot of loading are good to put on (single player or MMOs), but some team games might not be because you will need to wait for other players to load anyway. A 64 GB one will probably be sufficient, especially if you manage the space well (follow Sean's Guide)

430 W will likely be enough, but depending on how old it is, or the specific model, you might want to upgrade to something more efficient. I have a 2500k (oc'd) and a 6870 and I don't pull more than 200-250 W from the wall while gaming. Good brands would be seasonic, xfx, rosewill capstone (only this series), corsair, antec is pretty good I think. Jonnyguru has good reviews if you're curious about a particular model.

edit: watchout, the 560 with 2GB linked above isn't a -TI version where the 1 GB that was linked is. The -TI version is much better and worth the $15 more even with less VRAM. Just make sure you're looking at -TI cards. Curse nvidia's naming, it's tricky. The VRAM really shouldn't matter at 1080p
Edited by Molybdenum - 1/29/12 at 9:32pm
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welcome to OCN. go ahead post your system when u feel like it so people would see your rig biggrin.gif
post #9 of 14
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Wow, great feed back. I currently am at 1920x 1080 so 1 gig of Vram sounds like enough. And I am planning on November (Money is from summer civil engineering internship and I wan't some of those black Friday sales) and I will have time to look at benchmarks for kepler and 7000 series and get windows 8(not a big deal). SSD will likely be in it and I will go on the safe side and get a better PSU (don't want to skip there!) I definitively like the HAF 912 case though, but who knows what will change over the next few months
    
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If you can get a 2GB version for the same or a little more I would recommend it even at 1920X1080....In gpu-z I hit 1.2GB vram on certain maps. Better safe than sorry, especially with future games using more vram. Check this out -- http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18344290
    
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