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So here I am, a year after putting together my sig rig, looking to upgrade to a true enthusiast build. Money isn't much of an object; I intend to spend on a future-ready loop now, while I have the money. The issue, is that I have no experience with water cooling whatsoever.

My entire career revolves around flowing oil/gas wells, so I'm expecting to have no trouble catching on. Temperatures, pressures, corrosion/erosion, and pumps of all sorts are a pretty much part of my daily life. I am having trouble finding good information, though.

So, I'll ask you fellas what you would do. You have a TJ-11BW, all the parts from my sig rig, except 3 7970's with Swiftech Komodo waterblocks.
What would you buy to do justice to this build? (Yes, this is the plan so far, and yes, I do want to finally put my 980x under water properly.)

Edit: If you're interesting, the worklog will probably include this, along with Eyefinity/Surround monitor upgrades (possibly 3x1440p,) and upgrades to the motherboard, sleeving, peripherals, RAM, and Video cards -- probably waiting for Kepler to see who's got what I need.
Edited by Mookster - 1/29/12 at 10:37pm
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1. Have the GPU's on their own dedicated loop with an RX480.
2. Use a RX360 to cool the CPU. Overkill, but it might come in handy if you decide to cool the Northbridge.
3. They should both easily fit in the bottom compartment.
4. Get a 250mL or 400mL tube style reservoir for each loop.
5. I'd go with a D5 for each loop since they are quieter and run cooler than the DDC pumps. In addition they can be fitted with the Bitspower dress kit/top.
6. Tubing, stick with 7/16" ID 5/8" OD or 1/2" ID 3/4" OD.
7. CPU block, choose which one is aesthetically more pleasing to you since they all perform nearly the same.
8. Fittings, Bitspower compression.

That's all I can think of at the moment. Hope that helps. Really looking forward to seeing this build, the case look amazing especially the motherboard orientation. thumb.gif
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I'd disagree with 2 separate loops personally, though the amount of radiators sounds like what I'd use... With the setup suggested above, you'd have a very low delta on the cpu loop and a much higher delta on the gpu loop, as they offer pretty similar cooling capacity but have vastly different heat loads. At the cost of a few degrees on the cpu, you could bring the gpu temps down with a single loop, which is what I'd do. If you're set on 2 loops, I'd consider more like a 240mm for the CPU, and see if you can do more on the GPU's, to bring the deltas to a similar level, perhaps 2x360 for the gpu? That's not particularly easy to plumb though, so I'd stick with the single loop and 2 rads.

As for specific parts, I don't really have any suggestions. I personally plan my loops around performance rather than appearance, I lack the budget to do both so I don't have a lot of experience with the flashier pieces. I'm sure some of the builders here that have bigger budgets can chime in with some suggestions.
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I'm considering doing something special for my GPU loop. I haven't seen anyone else do it, and perhaps there's a reason for that, but I think I have my math down.

What I want to do is create "flow rails" for that loop. My idea is to have two large ID lines spanning across the three cards; each main line "tee'd" to 3 smaller ID lines. I can create a restriction at these three lines by ensuring their total diameter doesn't work out to be any greater than that of my pump(s) outlet(s.) Ideally the main line ID will be greater than the total pump outlet ID so that it's pressure will equalize with the pump outlet pressure, creating pressure to regulate the flow through the three feed lines to the GPU's. With the moderate pressure this will generate, I can guarantee equal flow to the three GPU's.

The main outlet line will be the same concept more or less, I just need to make sure there are no restrictions down line that are greater than that of the sum of the three feed lines.

Here's a very rough illustration of what I would create myself. I'm still not familiar parts; the parts probably won't exist for what I have in mind:
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I'm still doing the math and researching on pressure pushing capabilities of pumps to see whether or not the back pressure will be enough to even the flowrates without the more complex "tee"ing off of the main line. If anyone knows if there are quad/tri heads available for purchase, I'd be interested to see them; I can't find any.
Edited by Mookster - 1/30/12 at 9:28pm
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This really doesn't spark anyone's interest?
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Hmm, I swear I replied to this... Anyway, it doesn't really look any different that if you were to just run the graphics cards in parallel, there shouldn't be any need to use smaller tubing to force equal restriction, the waterblocks themselves will serve as the restrictive point, and since they're all the same block, flow between the three should be identical.
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