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Cute, everything at stock clocks (except 2500k). i3's OC headroom is 3-5%. Phenom II 955, 20%; Bulldozer, 30%.
 
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we already knew this...yes??
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post #53 of 186
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With a 7970 video card the CPU selection really becomes less significant.

Actually it's the exact opposite, the higher-end GPU you have the more significant the CPU becomes otherwise the GPU's potential will be severely bottlenecked.
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Quite an unrealistic test. Nobody would build such a system, as the previous poster said you need a good balance.

Another uneducated comment. The reason for using a 7970 is to eliminate any possible GPU limitation/bottleneck and show the differences between CPU's. The fact that you would say something like "nobody would build such a system" shows you don't understand the purpose and meaning of such benchmarks.
post #54 of 186
Why is there no thuban overcock? Granted clock for clock it is almost the same as the x4, but it should clock higher than 4.0 with some love.
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Actually it's the exact opposite, the higher-end GPU you have the more significant the CPU becomes otherwise the GPU's potential will be severely bottlenecked.
Another uneducated comment. The reason for using a 7970 is to eliminate any possible GPU limitation/bottleneck and show the differences between CPU's. The fact that you would say something like "nobody would build such a system" shows you don't understand the purpose and meaning of such benchmarks.

Even with three monitors in Eyefinity/Surround?
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Originally Posted by zrlan7710 View Post

I thought this was about graphic cards.

Between Intel and AMD? Obviously AMD has the better graphics chips, whether integrated or discrete.

Of course they bench at 1920x1080, useless for comparing cpus.
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post #57 of 186
AMD can't compete with Intel in any range.

Glad to see AMD put in it's place. I don't see them competing with Intel anytime soon, not with the huge money difference that Intel and AMD are putting into R&D.
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You know once overclocked three of the top six spots went to AMD FX processors.
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Wait wait wait. Does it not strike anyone as odd that an old architecture chip like a Phenom II, for instance the 980 with a stock clock of 3.7Ghz, still averages roughly as well as two-generation newer chips? Doesn't that say something about older hardware?

It's obvious that they get beat by i5 and i3 chips, but the averages and minimums are so close to each other, what's the real difference? Price you pay is a factor, sure; but you can't deny the Phenom II's still 'hold up' well enough.

It's basically like it is with 1366. If you have 1366, there was really no point in upgrading to second-gen chips and platforms, and the same can be said for AM3. Moving forward to AM3+ with BD processors proved no miraculous improvement. While the second-gen Intel chips proved bigger gains over previous generations, if I had 1366 instead of AM3, I wouldn't have upgraded to i5 for marginal gains.

Anyways, I think it's obvious that while the trend shows i3 and i5 as a current buy now, if you're on a platform that's AM3, or 1366/1156, there's no real reason to upgrade the platform right now.

That's my opinion and why I haven't switched anything but processors / video cards within my platform.
    
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AMD can't compete with Intel in any range.
Glad to see AMD put in it's place. I don't see them competing with Intel anytime soon, not with the huge money difference that Intel and AMD are putting into R&D.

Even if you're an Intel fanatic you should be praying for good competition from AMD, as it would push Intel to developer faster, better, and sell their stuff more cheaply.
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