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SNB is only about 15% faster clock-for-clock over Nehalem/Lynnfield. But in AVX-enabled applications, SNB tears NHM's head off. So is SNB not major, or were people going crazy over it? wink.gif
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i think that the integrated gpu that intel is trying to implement on this chips is actually slowing down the development of the cpu itself. and is not like many people really care about integrated gpu. at least not the people that really play games.
    
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Originally Posted by manolith View Post

i think that the integrated gpu that intel is trying to implement on this chips is actually slowing down the development of the cpu itself. and is not like many people really care about integrated gpu. at least not the people that really play games.

Remember -- SNB/IVB/HSW are all architectures targeted for the mobile space that just get scaled up for the mainstream desktop. High end desktop/server get the same cores, but more of them, with a different, better suited, uncore.
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I'm curious if this is a spy photo, or if Intel has an employee release a shot like this on purpose.
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Aww!
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post #16 of 46
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Originally Posted by aeassa View Post

SNB is only about 15% faster clock-for-clock over Nehalem/Lynnfield. But in AVX-enabled applications, SNB tears NHM's head off. So is SNB not major, or were people going crazy over it? wink.gif

That was a transition to a brand new architecture while this one will be a "tweak" of SB.

The craze you speak of must of happened somewhere other than here. The popularity of SB on this forum was mostly attributed to its affordability and high overclocks.
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and the "should i buy ivy or wait for haswell" game begins
Lol?! Get an IVY and an Haswell as well. Man enthusiasts need more than one rig / CPU / whatever.
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post #18 of 46
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and the "should i buy ivy or wait for haswell" game begins

not really. I mean, considering my 1366 platform still rocks out on just about everything I see no need to even consider upgrading until benchmarks are released smile.gif Especially people like me that don't do heavy (or any tbh) video encoding or much with heavily multi-threaded apps, it's going to take some serious improvements in day to day tasks to get me to budge off my 1366 thumb.gif I mean sure, you'll have the rich peeps who always want the latest and greatest thing, simply to increase their e-peen, and you have some people who can take advantage of some of the newer instruction sets, and a few people who will appreciate the lower power consumption (i'm assuming) the newer chips offer. But really, most chisp are fine for many generations after their release, I don't know why any gamer would leave their set-up for this, unless they're running C2Q or C2D to be perfectly honest, and even then C2Q can still hang pretty well when it comes to gaming performance.
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post #19 of 46
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"Major" was used in a subjective manner. In the same way that Haswell will be a "huge" CPU shift.
These new instructions sets won't mean anything to most consumers until there is mainstream software to properly implement them. BD with FMA4 has a lot of potential but by the time implementation becomes common place it will only be relevant to the users who bought them at the time. The fact that AMD and Intel went with different approaches won't help the adoption rate. Of course, Intel's market share could push FMA3 to be standard.
If used in the context of OCN, what seems to be a mostly gaming community, the benefits might not be seen for several generations because of the slow implementation of hardware functionality in newer games.

architecturaly haswell will be a big deal and that's what matters ... will it boost gaming performance?


why not ... gpus matter more these days
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and the "should i buy ivy or wait for haswell" game begins

That's pretty simple.... Wait for Haswell. Ivy is just a "toc" in Intel's roadmap. Haswell is completely new, hence the "Tick". It all boils down to what you have now and if you can live with your current parts or not. Going from SB to IB to me is just silly. The ONLY thing that IB brings to the table is a better iGP... Who is going to actually use it on this site? 1 person?, and PCI-E 3.0 - which let's be honest... We've barely broken PCI-E 1.0 bandwith for all single GPU cards, even the most hungry dual gpu cards barely go past 1.0's bandwith. Things like USB 3 isn't much of a selling point since every SB board in existence pretty much has a USB 3 add-on chip. Haswell will be completely new from the ground up.
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