Originally Posted by MediaRocker
Poor examples (everyone knows that HP and Compaq computers are feces, and that Daewoo was purchased by GM but still manufactured the vehicles FOR GM, in addition Hyundai purchased half of Kia, but many vehicles are different and do not share parts at all, in addition to current GM products being the equivalent of overpriced feces. Basically all your car analogies don't bear weight here when the majority of the internals of Seasonic OEM PSU's are in fact the same but the shells are the only difference.) but I'll humor you.
Other XFX PSU's have seemed to perform well in independent reviews, which is why I'm saying that XFX can't be all bad. I can't speak for the 650W XXX, as I have an affinity to Modularized PSU's... (I prefer proper cable management techniques rather than band-aids).
And while Seasonic has it's share of subpar releases I think pinning it on XFX alone is not appropriate. Sometimes bad production runs occur, and it's not to the fault of XFX or Seasonic. It's a problem that needs to be remidied, and I can fully undertstand why XFX will deny many RMA claims. People break their crap and expect them to replace it for free. You can thank them.
I'm not an XFX fan and I've never owned a single XFX product in my life, I just don't think writing off XFX is right, because they have some products which are worthwhile...
My biggest point is that ALL
manufacturers have their issues, especially when dealing with rebadged products from OEMS. (this could have happened with a Corsair unit, a PCP&C, whatever) Nevertheless, asking someone to pay shipping to them is NOT out of the ordinary, and the OP's rant and rave over this is unjustified. He got everything he deserved. He was rude and demanding instead of being courteous and polite, and in addition to that he was the one who put himself in that position.
Actually, I think HP is a perfect example. Although their quality has dipped drastically in recent years they aren't all bad and they haven't always sucked. It's very similar to the Seasonc quality you describe. The Kia/Hyundai was a miss but the Scion/Toyota is exactly what I was trying to describe.
Anyways.. in all fairness you're saying it could
have happened to Corsair but it did
happen to XFX. Catastrophe can befall any company but the one with the incident takes the reputation damage - it's just how it is. I guess all I was saying was throwing around "it's made by Seasonic - the same company that OEM's for everyone else" doesn't mean very much. We don't know if they paid for lesser tested units or anything of that nature. I should also be honest and say that I've never respected XFX's quality. Their gfx cards were always louder and noiser and quite often hotter than their competitors. They just always struck me as overrated, but YMMV.
Let me be clear about something: While I agree it's disgusting for companies to make us pay for RMA I acknowledge that it's the industry standard to rip us off. It was also completely retarded of him to keep a product he knew was already opened and it was even more retarded to go off on the CS rep before he even denied him service. His entire approach was ill-advised to say the least.