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Originally Posted by Masterik View Post

Hi guys, im new here, i register because i need help.
My actual spec
Dual core 3.0
ati hd 4350
3gb ram (win7 32 bits)
with this i can play bf3 in low at 10-25fps.
i only have like 400-450$ is the limit in my credit card (i live in south america), so my friend told me to buy the ati hd6950, but i know im gonna have a bottleneck. but how much? if i buy a new cpu, mobo and memory im not gonna have money for the gpu. so thats my question.
Cpu, mobo and memory or the graphic card; and with only 400$ what cpu, mobo and memory i can buy?
thanks and sorry for the english D:

This took me like 5 mins to build, Im sure OCN members can revise it and make it better.
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Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

yes..i3 is dual-core..not so good..if you;re considering i3..also consider true-quad amd
actually though..not a bad option
Dualcore SB chips are pretty fast, and for a budget PC will be enough. It is not like you plan to multi-GPU(flagship cards) setup with an i3 either way.
Edited by Zcypot - 1/31/12 at 1:05pm
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2
Honestly the i3 2120 is on par or better than even the bulldozer chips in most games. Since it is a dual core that can handle 4 threads (hyper threading), and it has MUCH faster per core performance than any amd chips available.

The i3 is a good little chip.

Here's another good source:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120.html
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ok So i built this from Amazon since thats where the OP is looking. Tried to keep this thing low budget to allow for Win7 64 bit upgrade. This rig will game WAY better than what the OP has currently.

cx430 Plenty of PSU for this RIG $35 (Phaedrus' PSUCalc says 350w!

2x4gb DDR3 1600 cl9 $38 with shipping

6790 1GB $115 AMIR

3.3ghz i3 2120 $127

Gigabyte h61 mobo $53

NZXT Source 210 $40

Comes out to $408thumb.gif
Edited by LuckySe7ens - 1/31/12 at 1:18pm
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post #24 of 32
Thread Starter 
so i have 3 options.
1: buy the 6950, an i5 cpu and buy the rest here in my country
2: Zcypot option.
3: LuckySe7ens option.

2 and 3 is basic a new pc D: but with the graphic card is like the half of the ati 6950, what do you think is better?
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Since someone already made the recommendation:
I'd go with LuckySe7ens option.

The only changes I would make are:
Keep current version of windows for now (upgrade later)
Keep current case
Find the cheapest 6870 or 6950 you can.
Save the cash for other things.

The i3 is a beast of a CPU and will work great for you.
You could even drop to 4 gigs of Memory to save a little more money now, a simple gaming machine does not need 8, it is just so terribly cheap there is little reason not to.

Just re-read you currently have a 500w Power supply. You might not need a new one, even if it is less quality, an i3 and a HD 6950 don't need a super high end PSU to run well.
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Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2
Honestly the i3 2120 is on par or better than even the bulldozer chips in most games. Since it is a dual core that can handle 4 threads (hyper threading), and it has MUCH faster per core performance than any amd chips available.

that's FX chips..not phenom 2s
especially not a cheap dual-core that unlocks to a quad and OCs to 4.0 +
i guarantee my zosma>anything short of an i5 2500K @ 4.4+
(it only gets a lil less points than a 2500K @ 4.8)
 
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that's FX chips..not phenom 2s
especially not a cheap dual-core that unlocks to a quad and OCs to 4.0 +
i guarantee my zosma>anything short of an i5 2500K @ 4.4+
(it only gets a lil less points than a 2500K @ 4.8)

You really like your Zosma smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif huh?
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You really like your Zosma smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif huh?

no reason to not love the zosma.

at 4ghz core, 3000mhz cpu-nb, 1066 ddr2 ram 5-5-5-15-20 it flew. even on my old board. no way around it. for $125 dollars, you cant be the performance for the cheap price as an upgrade to an existing am3 board. (if it supports it, cheaper with an am2+)
it may not be intel but it sure as hell gets the job done.
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no reason to not love the zosma.
at 4ghz core, 3000mhz cpu-nb, 1066 ddr2 ram 5-5-5-15-20 it flew. even on my old board. no way around it. for $125 dollars, you cant be the performance for the cheap price as an upgrade to an existing am3 board. (if it supports it, cheaper with an am2+)
it may not be intel but it sure as hell gets the job done.

If you have an existing am2+/am3 board than yes its a fantastical upgrade. But the OP here does not. To purchase a decent board with unlocking abilities and good VRMs costs money that isnt really allocated for in the budget.
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that's FX chips..not phenom 2s
especially not a cheap dual-core that unlocks to a quad and OCs to 4.0 +
i guarantee my zosma>anything short of an i5 2500K @ 4.4+
(it only gets a lil less points than a 2500K @ 4.8)

No chips are guaranteed unlockers, even ones that have proven to unlock (ie used) can have issues on other boards. While Phenom II's improve dramatically with OC'ed NB's and it seems that this has been largely overlooked by the review websites, IMHO in this particular case the OP would have a much easier time grabbing an i3 with a cheap board like i have suggested and putting some money towards a nice GFX card.
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post #30 of 32
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Originally Posted by Masterik View Post

so i have 3 options.
1: buy the 6950, an i5 cpu and buy the rest here in my country
2: Zcypot option.
3: LuckySe7ens option.
2 and 3 is basic a new pc D: but with the graphic card is like the half of the ati 6950, what do you think is better?
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Originally Posted by Aparition View Post

Since someone already made the recommendation:
I'd go with LuckySe7ens option.
The only changes I would make are:
Keep current version of windows for now (upgrade later)
Keep current case
Find the cheapest 6870 or 6950 you can.
Save the cash for other things.
The i3 is a beast of a CPU and will work great for you.
You could even drop to 4 gigs of Memory to save a little more money now, a simple gaming machine does not need 8, it is just so terribly cheap there is little reason not to.
Just re-read you currently have a 500w Power supply. You might not need a new one, even if it is less quality, an i3 and a HD 6950 don't need a super high end PSU to run well.

If your happy with your case (and it will accept an ATX configuration, some premades have been BTX in the past and are not compatible with aftermarket motherboards) then by all means save the money from the case and the PSU and run a $145 AMIR Sapphire 6870 or better

You have mentioned "buy the rest here in my country" a few times, does that mean that there is room in your budget for that? certainly an i5 2500k would be a great option, but you have to make sure that you purchase a socket 1155 with a (P67 or z68 chipset if you want to overclock), motherboard and DDR3 ram. If not overclocking the i5 2400 [without a K] would be a good option with whatever H61 or H67 board you would like.
Edited by LuckySe7ens - 2/2/12 at 5:34pm
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