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you have to realize for SATA, it is SERIAL ATA, it means it can only go in one direction at a time. It may not necessarily create a visible bottleneck, but it will. once you start recording, you may start to get I/O lag, it will be the little lag spots in game where it freezes because its waiting on your HDD. my recommendation would be to have a completely different drive for FRAPS recording. If you're going to record FRAPS i wouldn't even use a RAID array, i'd use 2 disks in JBOD. One for Boot-OS/Games/Apps, and the other for FRAPS recording.

But, if I use 2 different drives with different SATA connectors(an SSD for the game and 1 HDD for the recording) will that bottleneck my system.
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But, if I use 2 different drives with different SATA connectors(an SSD for the game and 1 HDD for the recording) will that bottleneck my system.

only if it reaches your max speed for your southbridge, and i doubt that will ever happen with only two disks. No it will not happen, that would be the best way to do it in my book, use the SSD for OS/Main played games, then use the HDD for FRAPS recording and the other games you don't play as much.
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a HDD + SSD is a realy good idea IMO... the other posibility (asuming you get z68 or newer) is getting a very small SSD and 2 HDDs and use the SSD for caching... this will be a little slower but will get you better storage space... also, have you thought about the Momentous XT hybrid drives? last i heard they give many of the middle and lower class SSDs a run for their money in most of the important categories, but the most important part is that a 500GB momentous XT is only $150 (thats prity darn cheap for the performance)... if you have the money i would get that for OS and games and a regular drive for storage
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The only downside to the single SSD will be the write speed. (This may have changed w the new SSDs)
I have a second gen Vertex2 and the write speeds were terrible. While I'm not sure of the requirements for FRAPS, was is a big hit doing CAD, photo, or any other work with large files.
A friend of mine and myself have gone from SSD to multiple drive RAID0 arrays to get around that. I run 6 short stroked RE3 250s, he runs 4 Black 1TBs. Both beat the SSD in write.
All depends on your goals....
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Newer SSDs max out SATA3. In either direction.
 
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Newer SSDs max out SATA3. In either direction.

yep, even the Solid 3 will do 500+ MB/s read on SATA 3 if you have native SATA 3.
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Newer SSDs max out SATA3. In either direction.

No they don't, show me one that does with compressed data. thumbsupsmiley.png
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yep, even the Solid 3 will do 500+ MB/s read on SATA 3 if you have native SATA 3.
LOL, have you seen the benches with compressed data?

200 read 100 write.
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I think where HDD get owned by SSD is the seek time that is an issue nobody has really brought up yet.
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I think where HDD get owned by SSD is the seek time that is an issue nobody has really brought up yet.

sry... took this as common knowledge, but i will adress it as many may not know now that i think about it thumb.gif

what matters in gaming is not teh large read and writes, but the seek time (or latency)... esentualy the quicker the drive finds the data, the better performance (the quicker the textures load, faster boots, ect.)... the read and write speeds of drives play a very minimal effect in gaming performance, as most files that are loaded are relatively small (texture packets and such)

what matters in large scale file productivity is sustained reads and writes... these are often achieved with "enterpise class" HDDs such as the RE4... since there will be a long time spent on copping/ saving/ loading the file anyways, the latency difference is neglegable

for the best large reads and writes i would go with enterprise HDDs in your choice of RAID configuration (everyone has one that they like for some reason or another) with a small low latency drive for OS, games, and often used programs... i personaly dont like RAID 0 because of the chances you are taking, but you dont have enough HDDs to need (or even be able to use for that matter) RAID 5, 6, or 10... for now just get a low latency drive and an enterprise drive, so that you can add to the setup later down the road once you get some more money to upgrade smile.gif

and PS. welcome to our addiction thumb.gif
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Games load much faster from SSD. The biggest difference you'll notice is if you play multi-player online stuff. I saw a huge difference in L4D2 loads for example when joining games.

If you don't have an SSD, you won't know any better. Once you do, you won't want to load games off of HDDs. I put another SSD in my sig rig for that very reason, 'cause 120GB gets full pretty fast when you have alot of games.

People always talk about the advantage of having the OS on an SSD. Honestly, I don't notice any difference in Windows itself. It's the game loads, app loads, installation speeds (installing NVidia drivers from an SSD is silly fast) that is the advantage.

120GB with a large HDD as a secondary is a great setup. You can use Steamover to manage steam games, and keep things like pictures, MP3s etc where speed doesn't matter on the HDD.
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Games load much faster from SSD. The biggest difference you'll notice is if you play multi-player online stuff. I saw a huge difference in L4D2 loads for example when joining games.
If you don't have an SSD, you won't know any better. Once you do, you won't want to load games off of HDDs. I put another SSD in my sig rig for that very reason, 'cause 120GB gets full pretty fast when you have alot of games.
People always talk about the advantage of having the OS on an SSD. Honestly, I don't notice any difference in Windows itself. It's the game loads, app loads, installation speeds (installing NVidia drivers from an SSD is silly fast) that is the advantage.
120GB with a large HDD as a secondary is a great setup. You can use Steamover to manage steam games, and keep things like pictures, MP3s etc where speed doesn't matter on the HDD.

Loading Windows takes like 4 seconds from the SSD. I dunno what you're talking about.
 
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