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Not to be mean here but Nokia can suck it for ditching MeeGo and even more so for being so "just the tip" about supporting it. There was so much potential there that they just let flounder and die.
Windows on a phone just begs the question of why? What is the purpose/benefits? I'm fine with MS trying to be in the market but honestly they need to really sell the benefits and vocalize those more than anything. I for one associate Windows with "bloated, slow, problematic, demanding" and many people do(which Apple has helped spread). They combat that and prove the contrary and then they can succeed with a windows phone.

Nokia essentially got paid off by Windows to move from Symbian/Meego to WP7 for their smartphones. In reality, Nokia's old business model for selling most of their high-end phones unsubsidized just wasn't a good idea especially for the U.S. I would be really surprised if Nokia's WP7 sales aren't an order of magnitude higher than their N8 sales.

As for WP7, if Windows 8 tablets are successful, WP7 should do great. They'll just need to make sure the tablets, phones, and desktop/laptop are all integrated with some slick software.
 
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I agree with this, I walked into a shop a couple of months ago, and asked if I could buy a windows phone, the laughed, said that the phones are disappointing, and tried selling me a crappy Android phone, so I decided to buy a Mozart on ebay, and windows phone has to be the best phone OS I have over used.
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I really like my windows phone. I think more people would like them if they tried using one for a few days.

I actually love the new Lumia, and the WP7.5 interface. But I go with Android because my inner geeky needs all that customization and all that ability to tinker with the OS's belly wink.gif


I agree, salesmen have hurted WP7's reputation pretty bad. Thankfully that is starting to change.
   
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I like my lumia.. It's such a nice experience in a phone, I hate to quote Apple but it 'just works'. Software updates are frequent too, my only reservation is the search button on the front ONLY links to bing. So I put a tile for google on my screen instead. rolleyes.gif
    
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I think windows phone need to get apps developer a lot. and making a more interesting UI. since apple and android are having those. that is why people go with them.
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Actually, I think the WP7 UI looks good the way it currently is. Su much so that I'm currently running Launcher7 (WP7-styled launcher for android) and Zplayer (basically WP7's Zune app ported to android) on my Xperia Arc
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Supposedly, the Lumia 900 is going to be marketed as a halo device for AT&T when it drops in March... if we're lucky, that should get some momentum going. If Nokia + MS + AT&T can get a campaign out there on the scale of the original Droid's marketing, there's definitely potential. I can't WAIT for the 900, personally.
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the current hardware restrictions are pretty low end.
single core Scorpion CPU (last gen snapdragon)
Adreno GPU (usually either 200 or 205, both of which are pretty low end)
256/512 RAM in most current phones.
Even the lowest of the low end Android phones have this sort of hardware. The windows License isn't terribly expensive.
There is a Nokia Lumia 710 that is like $50 on contract. That is pretty cheap. I think the reason that windows phone doesn't sell well is because the incumbents are far superior in their ecosystems. There is no Pandora app for WP7, but both iOS and Android (even BB) have one.

Typical OCNer who thinks specs are everything -_- The Adreno 205 is not a low end GPU, it's the same one in the xperia play and it can easily handle 3D rendering. CPUs are indeed limited to single core but they're all second gen snapdragon 1.4-1.5GHz+ which again is NOT slow. the only thing they might struggle at is 1080p video recording which is pointless to me. I hate how android has just because this massive spec war because its the only thing manufacturers can differentiate with apart from bundling crappy skins.
I do agree on your last point though, the ecosystem does need a boost. However I am not a big apps user so thats really no issue for me.
    
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the current hardware restrictions are pretty low end.
single core Scorpion CPU (last gen snapdragon)
Adreno GPU (usually either 200 or 205, both of which are pretty low end)
256/512 RAM in most current phones.
Even the lowest of the low end Android phones have this sort of hardware. The windows License isn't terribly expensive.
There is a Nokia Lumia 710 that is like $50 on contract. That is pretty cheap. I think the reason that windows phone doesn't sell well is because the incumbents are far superior in their ecosystems. There is no Pandora app for WP7, but both iOS and Android (even BB) have one.

Typical OCNer who thinks specs are everything -_-. first off, the Adreno 205 is not a low end GPU, it s the same one in the xperia play and it can easily handle 3D rendering. CPUs are indeed limited to single core but they're all second gen 1.4GHz+ which again is NOT slow. the only thing they might struggle at is 1080p video recording which is pointless to me. I hate how android has just because this massive spec war because its the only thing manufacturers can differentiate with apart from bundling crappy skins.
I do agree on your last point though, the ecosystem does need a boost. However I am not a big apps user so thats really no issue for me.

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I like my lumia.. It's such a nice experience in a phone, I hate to quote Apple but it 'just works'. Software updates are frequent too, my only reservation is the search button on the front ONLY links to bing. So I put a tile for google on my screen instead. rolleyes.gif

I love my lumia 800 too biggrin.gif. I had to send it back for a battery replacement though. Its also jarring how it brings you to bing no matter where you are. It should be a contextual search button like on android
    
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honestly i think its just that widows and symbian has become too isolated in their own worlds

yeah they are great but its become a bigger leap for someone to go from android/ios to widows

people are more willing to go ios 4 to ios 5 or froyo to gingerbread or to ics

and the fact that the user knows the software and only has to adapt to the new hardware is really much more comfortable then learning a whole new OS

but its easier to get a new phone these days

BB will be BB users know what to expect

apple people know apple

but andriod is a real winner here i think because its just so vast i could go from an older android samsung to any of the android partners with ease and know what to expect
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