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Simple, right here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1179754/pumps-35-shipped/0_20

Very nice seller, and a great product for the money.

My 2 cents as a satisfied customer. thumb.gif

EDIT: Sorry Mav, didn't see your post in time.
Edited by SandShark - 3/6/12 at 2:01am
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If you know a pump maverick, why pay top dollar of $80+shipping for a MCP350?

LOL i feel retarded now -___-
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If you know a pump maverick, why pay top dollar of $80+shipping for a MCP350?

LOL i feel retarded now -___-

Nah, don't feel like that. We all have our learning experiences. wink.gif

I'm old an I'm still learning. biggrin.gif

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This thread makes me a bit confused. I am looking at the MCP35X with the reservoir from them. The pump is $99 and the reservoir $29.

I am just wondering, why would anyone ever change the top on the MCP35X? Is it only if people want to use a built-in reservoir other than the swifttech one??

Would there be any other reason someone would change the top?

Also, stupid question, but what does a top do? I understand there's 3 parts... pump, top and reservoir. Is the top just plastic etc? Im just confused because someone said people used to replace tops to create more power.

Yeah, new to water cooling.... and searching "water cooling" "what is a top" yields nothing in google.
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This thread makes me a bit confused. I am looking at the MCP35X with the reservoir from them. The pump is $99 and the reservoir $29.

I am just wondering, why would anyone ever change the top on the MCP35X? Is it only if people want to use a built-in reservoir other than the swifttech one??

Would there be any other reason someone would change the top?

Also, stupid question, but what does a top do? I understand there's 3 parts... pump, top and reservoir. Is the top just plastic etc? Im just confused because someone said people used to replace tops to create more power.

Yeah, new to water cooling.... and searching "water cooling" "what is a top" yields nothing in google.

The idea of a Reservoir atop the Pump is to have a fresh supply of coolant to feed the pump to keep it running optimally an while giving it almost no opportunity to run dry. I highly recommend it...



I'm running Dual DDC-1T in single pump operation under EK Dual DDCv2 top(increased performance over stock tops and =/> 35x top under 250mm Frozen Q Reservoir. Takes me minutes to fill to infinite supply for my pumps and full operation and a little more time to completely fill and let the bubbles work themselves out of the loop. yessir.gif

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This thread makes me a bit confused. I am looking at the MCP35X with the reservoir from them. The pump is $99 and the reservoir $29.
I am just wondering, why would anyone ever change the top on the MCP35X? Is it only if people want to use a built-in reservoir other than the swifttech one??
Would there be any other reason someone would change the top?
Also, stupid question, but what does a top do? I understand there's 3 parts... pump, top and reservoir. Is the top just plastic etc? Im just confused because someone said people used to replace tops to create more power.
Yeah, new to water cooling.... and searching "water cooling" "what is a top" yields nothing in google.

This link may be helpful for info regarding your MCP-35X questions: http://martinsliquidlab.org/2011/02/25/swiftech-mcp-35x-reservoir/
That sight also provides excellent reviews and tests of various H2O cooling components - which is great for both the novice and expert.


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While we are splitting hairs a bit here, I did measure a slight performance advantage to using the combined reservoir vs separated reservoir. This makes sense because you have one less fitting plus less tubing loss, etc. I also found the top down inlet tube idea to be superior to the sponge system in performance. But the key benefit to the top down tube is very still surface water clear out to 3GPM and more. It’s also more resistant to varied fill height levels.

People here can also answer questions you may have after your research. As Ceadderman mentioned, some pump tops for previous MCP pumps added performance to the pumps by a slight top design change, and offer the option of a vertical/top inlet into the pump - see tests MCP-350 and MCP-355 (MLL Archive). The 35X's top combines both advancements. As you can see in the chart and quote above, the addition of the top with reservoir has slight advantages and performance in GPM (Gallons per Minute) over the pump connected separately to a reservoir in low restriction loops. There are also factors with heat and noise, which martin's article explains.
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I highly recommend the top down tube option like Martin says, easy to bleed and provides better performance than the stock sponge and mesh. I tried both and now settled with the down tube. No turbulances whatsoever. Even at +70%, water in the reservior isn't disturbed at all. But, you don't need to run your MCP-35X more than 50-60% anyway.
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People here can also answer questions you may have after your research. As Ceadderman mentioned, some pump tops for previous MCP pumps added performance to the pumps by a slight top design change.....There are also factors with heat and noise, which martin's article explains.
It takes some ingenuity to design a better pump top than those included with the original Laing pumps. The orginal tops are designed to limit flow rate (and current -> heat) as opposed the badly designed pumpkiller impeller housings you get from XSPC and their ilks (Swiftech 35X top is a good one).
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People here can also answer questions you may have after your research. As Ceadderman mentioned, some pump tops for previous MCP pumps added performance to the pumps by a slight top design change.....There are also factors with heat and noise, which martin's article explains.
It takes some ingenuity to design a better pump top than those included with the original Laing pumps. The orginal tops are designed to limit flow rate (and current -> heat) as opposed the badly designed pumpkiller impeller housings you get from XSPC and their ilks (Swiftech 35X top is a good one).

True. But it also takes solid planning to defeat the heat issue when planning the loop. Everyone knows that heat is an issue for DDC pumps. I do not have mine sitting in direct metal to metal contact nor do I have a Heatsink on them. I have mine connected to my RheoSmart 3 Fan Controller and have one on the other off and only running at 3/4 voltage. Between the airflow circulating underneath and the fan controller there aren't too many heat issues with mine under an Aftermarket top. thumb.gif

If you put some thought into it before you build it, you should be able to avoid problems. Also changing tops is about looks too. If the 35x top doesn't fit well with a build it's good to have the option available to swap out. biggrin.gif

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I'm just curious as to why the OP didn't just get the proper swiftech res for the pump instead of a third party one?
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