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Thanks, that makes my point stronger.
Nvidia is keeping prices stable so everything can stay affordable if you look at what their old prices were compared to the latest generation of gpu.
If they didn't then the gtx 580 would have been $700 at release and you would all be looking at $750 7970 prices on newegg.

Not really, no competition is why the prices went through the roof.

If big Kepler were released before GCN, guess what?
It would be priced accordingly to the 580...ouch!
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Not really, no competition is why the prices went through the roof.
If big Kepler were released before GCN, guess what?
It would be priced accordingly to the 580...ouch!

So I take it you would assume that if kepler destroys the 7970 by like 50% (theoretical), then it is gonna be released at $700+? I really doubt it because then 2 generations down the line you are going to have $1500 single gpus.
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Thanks, that makes my point stronger.
Nvidia is keeping prices stable so everything can stay affordable if you look at what their old prices were compared to the latest generation of gpus. They are doing the opposite of what AMD seems to be doing, which is raising prices every generation.
If they didn't then the gtx 580 would have been $700 at release and you would all be looking at $750 7970 prices on newegg.

ROFL, I have not laughed so hard at such an utterly ridiculous argument forever.

AMD prices are too high, they should take the moral high ground! BUT nvidia can charge whatever they want because I double standard ALL THE TIME!
Edited by xoleras - 1/31/12 at 1:54pm
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Check this post from a troll topic on the main page:
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Wewt! for almost $200 more than a gtx 570/6970 you can get like 5 extra fps in games! That is some good price/performance.

Stop making fun of the gtx580 like that.
http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=34329
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Check this post from a troll topic on the main page:
Stop making fun of the gtx580 like that.
http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=34329

Thank you for agreeing with me that it is ridiculous to pay $200 more for 5fps. I think it is absurd because all of the price/performance is gone and at that point you are just paying so you can say "I have the fastest gpu". People who buy them don't care about price/performance at all.

The 580 was horribly priced as is the 7970. I don't see your point?
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These 7950s are beast mode. Even if Kepler eventually drops and beats it out its not like you'll be left without an impressive well performing product.

79xx series have tons of RAM, huge amounts of horsepower, great power consumption and temp mitigation. If you buy one of these cards, you win. Regardless if Kepler drops and beats it for a similar price. ZOMG! End of the world yeah? No. People with 79xx cards will still be crushing frames in the latest games.

Announced today also is the MSI Twin Frozr III OC rendition of the 7950 (http://us.msi.com/news-media/news/1366.html). That'll be my card if nVIDIA doesnt cough up a contender by the release of Ivy Bridge.

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lol let me make it clear before hand: I'm running an MSI GTX570 Twin Frozr III atm so don't call me AMD fanboy. From all the benchies, the 7950 > the GTX 580 90% of the time honestly. I hope people would stop posting non-sense without using their brain nor reading websites.

It's not only that. You also have to consider the wattage. In which the 7950 is way lower yet still beating the 580.
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THANK YOU amd for keeping the prices high

so now nvidia will just lower 50$ to the already OVERPRICED GTX580

"AMD =affordable solution" is clearly gone in this gen

whats next ?? 325$ 7870 to perform the same as GTX 570 ??
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So I take it you would assume that if kepler destroys the 7970 by like 50% (theoretical), then it is gonna be released at $700+? I really doubt it because then 2 generations down the line you are going to have $1500 single gpus.

This exact scenario has already been played out, GTX280 vs 4870.

If there were no GCN and NV released big Kepler last month, yes Kepler would be priced against existing NV cards.

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NVIDIA owns the high end graphics market. For the past six months, there has been no challenge to the performance leadership of the GeForce 8800 GTX.
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We do know NVIDIA has wanted to push up towards the $1000 graphics card segment for a while. Offering the top of the line for what almost amounts to a performance tax would give NVIDIA the ability to sell a card and treat it like a Ferrari. It would turn high end graphics into a status symbol rather than a commodity. That and having a huge margin part in the mix can easily generate additional profits.
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Not only will NVIDIA's new part offer higher performance than the current leader, but it will introduce a new price point in the consumer graphics market moving well beyond the current $600 - $650 set by the 8800 GTX, skipping over the $700 mark to a new high of $830. That's right, this new high end graphics card will be priced $230 higher than the current performance leader. With such a big leap in price, we had hoped to see a proportional leap in performance. Unfortunately, for the 38% increase in price, we only get a ~10% increase in core and shader clock speeds, and a 20% increase in memory clock.

That is what happens when there is no competing product.
All NV has to do is drop the 580 price right now, AMD pricing adjustments will happen.
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