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Well played since no website has actually offered such a benchmark.
We do know at higher resolutions the VRAM does matter with eyefinity. No one in their right mind on OCN needs a benchmark to tell you that.

Yah, I know ... but this guy's made three posts in this thread declaring that 1.2MB cards fall on their face at 1080p due to lack of vram, and that's a steaming pile of horse-stuff wink.gif

As an aside, I think most people would actually be surprised to see how well SLI 460 1GB cards can drive a triple 1080p monitor setup. It'll often fall on it's face when AA is used, but without AA, there's only a few games out there that become unplayable due to vram limitations.

IMHO, people around here tend to overestimate how much vram is actually needed for a given resolution.
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Yah, I know ... but this guy's made three posts in this thread declaring that 1.2MB cards fall on their face at 1080p due to lack of vram, and that's a steaming pile of horse-stuff wink.gif
As an aside, I think most people would actually be surprised to see how well SLI 460 1GB cards can drive a triple 1080p monitor setup. It'll often fall on it's face when AA is used, but without AA, there's only a few games out there that become unplayable due to vram limitations.
IMHO, people around here tend to overestimate how much vram is actually needed for a given resolution.

Try playing BF3 B2K maps on Ultra and you'll be surprised. Even with MSAA off I still max out all my VRAM.
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Yah, I know ... but this guy's made three posts in this thread declaring that 1.2MB cards fall on their face at 1080p due to lack of vram, and that's a steaming pile of horse-stuff wink.gif
As an aside, I think most people would actually be surprised to see how well SLI 460 1GB cards can drive a triple 1080p monitor setup. It'll often fall on it's face when AA is used, but without AA, there's only a few games out there that become unplayable due to vram limitations.
IMHO, people around here tend to overestimate how much vram is actually needed for a given resolution.

as long as we're on the same page here

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I used to own 2x GTX 460s in SLI, and at 1920 x 1080, and I couldn't run BF3 with full AA smile.gif
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Yah, I know ... but this guy's made three posts in this thread declaring that 1.2MB cards fall on their face at 1080p due to lack of vram, and that's a steaming pile of horse-stuff wink.gif
As an aside, I think most people would actually be surprised to see how well SLI 460 1GB cards can drive a triple 1080p monitor setup. It'll often fall on it's face when AA is used, but without AA, there's only a few games out there that become unplayable due to vram limitations.
IMHO, people around here tend to overestimate how much vram is actually needed for a given resolution.

So then based on this I should seriously consider the 7950 1.5GB as my upgrade? I really wanted at least 2GB if I am going to get a new expensive card. I am concerned with BF3 VRAM usage in particular, Any Insight? Thanks
 
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damn I want to get a 1GB 560 Ti and this Vram discussion put my in doubt :O
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damn I want to get a 1GB 560 Ti and this Vram discussion put my in doubt :O

Best to save up then. Get the 7950/7970 or wait for Keplfer
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1GB won't be enough if you plan to turn on all highest eye-candy options.

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damn I want to get a 1GB 560 Ti and this Vram discussion put my in doubt :O


 

 

 

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Seriously, you have NO IDEA what you're repeatedly ranting about throughout this thread in terms of vram usage at 1080p.
I challenge you to find ONE BENCHMARK ANYWHERE that shows ANY GAME performing better on, say, a 2.5GB 570 vs. a 1.25GB. Or 3GB 580 vs 1.5GB 580 ... at either 1920 resolution (1200, 1080).
Go ahead. I bet you 10 internets you can't find a single one that shows a statistically significant improvement from this extra vram. In fact, you'll be hard-pressed to find it happening at 2560 x 1600.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1038250996

http://forum.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=4146754 3rd from the last post

http://www.overclock.net/t/1151904/bf3-actual-vram-usage/50
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Apparently you are under the impression that if some software-based memory-usage monitoring application says that game X is using Y amount of vram, and that this number is more than the amount that your card has onboard, that this by definition automatically means your card will 'fall on it's face'.

In reality, this absolutely NOT automatic in any way, shape or form.

Again, I invite you to actually provide proof, via a reputable website, that shows that performance at 1920 resolutions (1080, 1200) is improved by having more than 1.2GB of vram on your card (or cards). A great place to start would be to look up reviews of the 2.5GB 570, and see how it does vs. the 1.2GB 570.

Wanna see mine?

In fact, 1.2MB vs 2.5MB barely makes a difference with 3 (count 'em THREE) 1080p screens.

In fact, I would bet you'll have a hard time finding instances where a 2GB 560ti is faster than a 1GB 560ti at 1080p.

So ... I'll be waiting for some actual proof of your repeated claims in this thread wink.gif
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