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Samsung's European legal woes don't look to be abating anytime soon, as the EU today formally launched an investigation into the Korean manufacturers' competitive practices. At issue are, not surprisingly, a collection of patents that Samsung has used to launch a series of lawsuits against rival companies. The manufacturer maintains that these patents are essential to complying with European mobile standards, but the EU says Samsung may be in violation of a promise it made more than ten years ago. Back in 1998, the firm said it would license these essential telephonic patents to competing manufacturers, under the terms outlined in FRAND. The Commission explained the obligation and its potential ramifications in the following statement:
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The Commission will investigate, in particular, whether in doing so (seeking injunctions on patent infringements in 2011) Samsung has failed to honor its irrevocable commitment given in 1998 to the European Telecommunications Standards Institute to license any standard essential patents relating to European mobile telephony standards on fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory (FRAND) terms. The Commission will examine whether such behavior amounts to an abuse of a dominant position prohibited by Article 102 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the EU.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/31/samsung-faces-eu-antitrust-investigation-over-mobile-patents/
 
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Apple must have paid EU in Billions for this....

really shocking that Apple isn't investiagated from all their sueing crap
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^ I'd say that's highly unlikely.
 
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Easy way out: license their patents with "reasonable" terms, whatever FRAND decides that is. The blame isn't on Samsung if no one wants to license them.
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Easy way out: license their patents.

Door swings both ways, force Apple to do the same and I am okay with it.
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Easy way out: license their patents.

Door swings both ways, force Apple to do the same and I am okay with it.

Apple didn't make that commitment like Samsung did. Samsung agreed to license their patents specifically within EU (I don't think this applies elsewhere). If the investigation decides that Samsung has BEEN offering their patents for licensing, they should be off the hook.
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Not enough information!

I sometimes get very frustrated with engadget for that reason.

What patents did samsung refuse to license under the FRAND umbrella?

It's funny how most of the patent things are about the mobile industry. Get too big, people try to knock you down. ;0.

lulz m$.
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Not enough information!

I sometimes get very frustrated with engadget for that reason.

What patents did samsung refuse to license under the FRAND umbrella?

It's funny how most of the patent things are about the mobile industry. Get too big, people try to knock you down. ;0.

lulz m$.

I don't think Samsung refused to license their patents, they're just being investigated to see if they've given others the opportunity to do so. Samsung is suing over these patents, possibly because the companies they're suing didn't WANT to license their patents. That's what's being investigated. If Samsung offered all of those companies the opportunity to license them under reasonable terms/prices and they simply refused, Samsung is within their right to sue.
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I don't think Samsung refused to license their patents, they're just being investigated to see if they've given others the opportunity to do so. Samsung is suing over these patents, possibly because the companies they're suing didn't WANT to license their patents. That's what's being investigated. If Samsung offered all of those companies the opportunity to license them under reasonable terms/prices and they simply refused, Samsung is within their right to sue.

Thanks smile.gif. Hopefully we'll get some more information as time progresses, the odd thing is that samsung isn't one to normally refuse licensing. *shrug*

Interesting how this all works. I don't think the people who envisioned the patent system (of the world) would've think it would come to this non-sense.
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Brussels, 31 January 2012 - The European Commission has opened a formal investigation to assess whether Samsung Electronics has abusively, and in contravention of a commitment it gave to the European Telecommunications Standards Institute (ETSI), used certain of its standard essential patent rights to distort competition in European mobile device markets, in breach of EU antitrust rules. The opening of proceedings means that the Commission will examine the case as a matter of priority. It does not prejudge the outcome of the investigation.

http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/12/89&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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