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with such a low ambient you should get some great temps,. I'd seriously suggest watercooling ure GPU aswell as it makes it SOOOOOOOOO much quieter and ALOT cooler (at stock clocks i went from 80 at load to 40, with an ambient of 35 degrees), now oc'd my gtx 570 to 900 and it gets up to 50 degrees, but it runs faster than a stock 580, so its a definate win!
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Ok first of all, i would be freezing my doo-dads off if my ambient temp was 15c.

lol, trust me this is not the minimum temp i have experienced in my room (around 11C is the minimum i have seen this year, uuuuuhm, so far)...no heating at this building...great for OC, bad for me...lol
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Good luck with your water cooling, and please post pictures.

Thanks bro but i think i'll pass for now...being a total W/C newbie i had high expectations and i am not sure they can be fulfilled so for i'll leave it for now...
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Originally Posted by dougshell View Post

Ok first of all, i would be freezing my doo-dads off if my ambient temp was 15c.
Now, with water cooling you should still see a nice drop even switching from a noctura. My i5 750 runs takes a lot of vcore and i went from 85c to 65c and was able to increase my BLCK Mhz by 200. ( 1.425vcore 4.0ghz 65/63/62/62)
Good luck with your water cooling, and please post pictures.

My ambient is 17C and has been 15C!! No heating :-(
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Id expect about a 8c drop in temps from your d14 for the cpu. Thats about what I got. Water cooling really doesnt benefit the cpu all that much. Its still worth it IMO though. 8c can be alot if you have hit a temp barrier.

Now if you water cool some vga cards you would see a substantial drop in temps. Thats because the heatsinks on vga cards are garbage. When I put my vgas under water I went from 75c load to 44c load. Thats a huge drop.

Dont listen to the people telling you that you will see a 20c difference. That is so unrealistic its not even funny. The d14 is an excellent cooller and it really isnt that far off from water cooling.

My 8c difference in temps was measured in conjunction with my ambient temp. Those people who say youll see 20c difference probably arent keeping track of there ambient.
Edited by AliceInChains - 2/4/12 at 5:40am
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My ambient is 17C and has been 15C!! No heating :-(

Hehehe...take a look at this: http://www.overclock.net/t/968053/official-the-sandy-stable-club-guides-voltages-temps-bios-templates-inc-spreadsheet/7050_30#post_16354597

Check the minimum temps. That's 13.5C ambient temp and of course with the case left panel closed...i have a Dimastech bench case in the mail i have the feeling that i'll break my personal lowest idle temps with air cooling record real soon... biggrin.gif

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Id expect about a 8c drop in temps from your d14 for the cpu.

Dont listen to the people telling you that you will see a 20c difference.

Don't worry bro, i have already realized this, that's why i am not taking the custom loop W/C route, not now...

What i might do is buy an H100 just for the giggles, load it with an extra two 120mm fans (already have some extras) and see what this baby can do while testing stability at 5 gigs...i don' expect more than 2-3C drop at 1.45V (open bench case) comparing to the D14 and i surely expect the noise to go skyrocket but i'll keep the D14 for my cpu...

After the tests i'll just install the H100 to my OCed GTX580 like a fellow forumite has already done and experiment... wink.gif
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Hehehe...take a look at this: http://www.overclock.net/t/968053/official-the-sandy-stable-club-guides-voltages-temps-bios-templates-inc-spreadsheet/7050_30#post_16354597
Check the minimum temps. That's 13.5C ambient temp and of course with the case left panel closed...i have a Dimastech bench case in the mail i have the feeling that i'll break my personal lowest idle temps with air cooling record real soon... biggrin.gif
Don't worry bro, i have already realized this, that's why i am not taking the custom loop W/C route, not now...
What i might do is buy an H100 just for the giggles, load it with an extra two 120mm fans (already have some extras) and see what this baby can do while testing stability at 5 gigs...i don' expect more than 2-3C drop at 1.45V (open bench case) comparing to the D14 and i surely expect the noise to go skyrocket but i'll keep the D14 for my cpu...
After the tests i'll just install the H100 to my OCed GTX580 like a fellow forumite has already done and experiment... wink.gif

My personal experience going from a d14 to rs360 loop my idle temp dropped from 42ish to 25ish and load from 70 to 50 so it must be possible....

Suppose it all depends on circumstances, I mean I do have a varying ambient especialy at different times of day that could account for it....
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You can expect this:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1209967/watercooling-is-really-worth-it/

I have two radiators to cool a single CPU lol... Must say it is still quieter somehow. The noise of the GT typhoon through the rad grill sounds different...
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if you have room for a bigger 240 rad you'll see a bit better temps, correct me if i'm wrong but the bigger the rad (depth wise) the better the cooling will be? you just gotta make sure you have the clearance, i myself have the EX240 and since its a low profile rad, i knew i wouldn't get the temps of lets say a RS240 rad since it is thicker therefore given a bigger surface area to cool. however it did cool my proc by at least 8* c at idle from my h80 and i have my 2500k oc'd to 4.5 with 1.38 voltage.

the biggest pro in my opinion will be a silent running pc, before it sounded like a helicopter, now its dead silent. the one recommendation would be to get quick disconnects, that alone will save you tons of time when you're leak testing and final tube assembly.

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post #19 of 20
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Thanks guys...

I really don't care about Idle temps, i always OC with EIST on, turbo and offset so no matter if i am at 3.5 or 4.9Ghz when idling Vcore is way below 1V and the freq stays at 1.6Ghz...also never had any probs with idle temps even with the default fan setup with the D14...

About the noise, again, i find the D14 even with three P14s running at 12V satisfactory...in fact i have 11 noctua fans in total installed in my case (3 on the D14) and i can run them all day long at 12V and still remain sane...
post #20 of 20
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Ok, guys let's talk about it a little bit if you don't mind...i beg for your patience... helpinghand.gif

Two things:

1)Any of you guys that have a fairly OCed 2600K (cpu single loop preferred although i bet the majority of you have single loops for you VGAs as well) could you give me your max temps using Prime95 or/and Linx AVX (i have kept plenty of notes for these 2 progs so the comparison would be easier to me) and your ambient temp? (i need this to calculate the deltas) Oh and please don't forget to mention your Vcore.

2)Let's say we have a single loop only for the CPU, using a 3x120 radiator. What would be the benefit by adding another one?

Thanks in advance guys...


PS: Summer is not that far away so chances are i'll go the W/C way anyway...soon or later i know i'll do it...
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