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Unlocked card on an Intel, I don't suppose you have Skyrim? redface.gif (and I only call a 6950 unlocked "mid range" single card now that 7970s are out, come on, the only thing that is going to beat you is 6990 / 6970 with a fat OC / 570 (evens?) /580 / 590, come on, you are at the thick end of the wedge...mind range is 68xx series, i now this is OCN but that just being bad to old cards tongue.gif )
the i3 with an unlocked 6950 is on par with a PHII? (not defending the PHII I am interested in the results in average gaming!!)

I've got quite a hodge podge of systems. One does have Skyrim installed on it, and that is a first gen Bloomfield Xeon running at about 3.5GHz with an unlocked 6950 @ 950/1450 (about 6-7% faster than a stock 6970). My Sandy Bridge system (currently a 4.6GHz 2700k) has a GTX 480 in it and doesn't have Steam. And I did state the 6950/6970 as upper mid-range for a reason. They are no slouches, but there are several faster cards at this point.

As for performance, you should be able to easily extrapolate how different speeds would perform from pretty much any readily available set of benchmarks that has at least a few chips of each architecture:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2120-2100_5.html#sect0
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/44339-intel-core-i3-2120-core-i5-2400-lga1155-processors-review-12.html

A 3.3GHz SB i3 can compete well with a ~4GHz Phenom II. Indeed, they will be nearly tied in most gaming situations, though the 4GHz X4 will likely win more than it loses. However, total system cost is less for the i3.

The reason I'd lean toward the i3 or locked i5 for a system being built from scratch is because they needs less quality platform/support hardware to support stock or mild OCs than an Phenom II needs for 4GHz+. Yes, the 4Ghz+ Phenom II is capable, but if you don't want to fry your board's VRM, you need a half-way decent board (100 dollars) and a better than stock cooler (30-40 dollars). Even an i5-2400 can run at it's max OC multiplier on the stock cooler, at stock volts, for years on a 60 dollar piece of crap mobo without issue.

The i3 costs the same as a Phenom II X4 and cannot OC, but is stock performance can match it in lightly threaded apps, and it potentially lower cost platform make up for and performance deficits that do exist. The i5 costs a bit more more than a X4, but a 3.8GHz SB quad is unquestionably superior to a ~4GHz X4 in virtually everything.

Again, this is from a gaming perspective. The X4 is typically a bit better general purpose chip than an i3, but sandy bridge really does have pretty amazing clock for clock, core for core, performance.

If only the OP's two builds are taken into account, the 6970 is a bigger advantage over the 6870 than the 2500k is over the X4, for gaming. My point is that you can do better than either build, if gaming in the here and now is the main concern.
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Apologies, I thought the "benches" supported that the FX was a tad better than the K at encoding video due to the moar coarez...and that was pretty much the only place it beat the K (winrar the other?)
Anyway, we are going slightly OT here redface.gif
Interesting. What card was this test done with? Linky? (i'll ignore the 600mhz diff as that is beside the point for a 5k increase)

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You submitted: 3DMark06 - 24063 marks - Radeon HD 5870 @ 928/1263MHz (960t)
 
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Standard 3Dmark 2006 runs are much more CPU limited than most real-world gaming scenarios.
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Awesome responses, I was thinking along the same lines that the GPU can make a big difference then the CPU in the alot of senerios ( I really liked the ones on the I3 I never even considered those, nicely done) , I'll know for sure in two days. I just payed for and ordered a 7970 3gb so I can't wait to see how it performs and benches in my rig on Thursday. thumb.gif
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