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According to Apple executives and Foxconn management, safety is the last thing on Apple's mind

Apple's history with suppliers that are abusive to their employees is no secret. Foxconn and Wintek are among Apple's electronics suppliers that have factories in China with horrible working conditions, but no matter how many times violations of Apple's supplier code of conduct are brought to light, the situation remains the same. Now, The New York Times has taken a closer look at the bleak environment that the employees of Apple's Asian suppliers are forced to deal with in its second installment of its iEconomy series.

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"You can either manufacture in comfortable, worker-friendly factories, or you can reinvent the product every year, and make it better and faster and cheaper, which requires factories that seem harsh by American standards," said a current Apple executive, who requested anonymity due to the sensitive topic. "And right now, customers care more about a new iPhone than working conditions in China."
Says the company that has more cash on-hand than the US government. The statement above is not true at all. Customers might care about a new iPhone than working conditions in China, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they wouldn't want Apple to take less profit if it meant better ethical practices.

Please note, I'm not singling out Apple. The sad fact of the matter is that they don't do anything differently than any other manufacturer that sources products from China also does. And in all practicality, what can one expect apple to do? Pay higher wages? Not source their products from foxconn, and choose some other manufacturer that violates the same code? The problem isn't Apple, the problem is standards of business practice and conduct in a foreign country. I think it's shameful that Apple sees fit to turn a blind eye, but when it comes down to a government enforcing labor laws, even a company as wealthy as Apple doesn't really stand a chance. 3rd world countries are, sadly, 3rd world countries, with 3rd world working conditions. Can't instantaneously promote them to 1st world overnight.

But it's good that more people are finally hearing about problems like this, which have been going on for...well, longer than the iphone has been in existence.
    
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Says the company that has more cash on-hand than the US government. The statement above is not true at all. Customers might care about a new iPhone than working conditions in China, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they wouldn't want Apple to take less profit if it meant better ethical practices.
Please note, I'm not singling out Apple. The sad fact of the matter is that they don't do anything differently than any other manufacturer that sources products from China also does. And in all practicality, what can one expect apple to do? Pay higher wages? Not source their products from foxconn, and choose some other manufacturer that violates the same code? The problem isn't Apple, the problem is standards of business practice and conduct in a foreign country. I think it's shameful that Apple sees fit to turn a blind eye, but when it comes down to a government enforcing labor laws, even a company as wealthy as Apple doesn't really stand a chance. 3rd world countries are, sadly, 3rd world countries, with 3rd world working conditions. Can't instantaneously promote them to 1st world overnight.
But it's good that more people are finally hearing about problems like this, which have been going on for...well, longer than the iphone has been in existence.

I would...from what I've read they demand some of (if not the highest) profit margins on each unit of their products. I think their profit margins were almost capable of being double the price of the actual materials and manufacturing. So while others may follow the same (I'll have to check) I doubt they gouge as much as Apple does.
     
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I would...from what I've read they demand some of (if not the highest) profit margins on each unit of their products. I think their profit margins were almost capable of being double the price of the actual materials and manufacturing. So while others may follow the same (I'll have to check) I doubt they gouge as much as Apple does.

On average, it costs $200 to build an iPhone, and they turn out and sell it for $600+.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1135510/ts-report-pegs-iphone-4s-manufacturing-cost-at-203/0_50
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And thus, one of the many reasons I do not purchase apple products whatsoever.
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The iPhone 4S costs $188 to manufacture.

Wow. The 16GB model is 650 without a contract. With one it's 199.

Josh I'm laughing about how South Koreans don't seem as pleased with a "slow" phone like the US does.
     
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How is this not a repost of thousands of reposts. Looks like you're trolling for attention in OCN news to start a flame war, and all the usual suspects have already showed up to begin the hate fest....

Their source is the same NY Times piece from last week. OLD'D
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I would...from what I've read they demand some of (if not the highest) profit margins on each unit of their products. I think their profit margins were almost capable of being double the price of the actual materials and manufacturing. So while others may follow the same (I'll have to check) I doubt they gouge as much as Apple does.

But it still doesn't change the fact that Apple doesn't set up the working environment--that's a product of the society in which the products are made. I think the conditions are terrible, but they pre-dated Apple and the iphone.
    
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How is this not a repost of thousands of reposts. Looks like you're trolling for attention in OCN news to start a flame war, and all the usual suspects have already showed up to begin the hate fest....
Their source is the same NY Times piece from last week. OLD'D

Since when is sharing the TRUTH starting a flame fest?
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