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post #11 of 34
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as with car audio, people think they get a true 4kw from their amps that say 4,000watt.. they know nothing of impedence, impendence rise, ... they think the gain knob is a volume knob. they crank boost as such, and their amp has 3 20 fuses and 14awg wiring.

sighs, audio woes.

I really need to look into home audio more, this thread has me interested in a dac/amp etc.

also.. it seems the quote I did of you changed while I was responding lol
post #12 of 34
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Originally Posted by INFAMYBLADE View Post

as with car audio, people think they get a true 4kw from their amps that say 4,000watt.. they know nothing of impedence, impendence rise, ... they think the gain knob is a volume knob. they crank boost as such, and their amp has 3 20 fuses and 14awg wiring.
sighs, audio woes.
I really need to look into home audio more, this thread has me interested in a dac/amp etc.

hmm I quoted myself somehow, off to bed.. ugh.
post #13 of 34
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@bowness thanks so much that really puts it all together, I checked out the E17 and I guess they are not available yet but fio's product info looks really nice. All I can find for the E17 is a pre-order... But it appears the E17 its twice as much as the E10, but the E10 boasts some pretty impressive specs (purely audio wise). The EQ sounds much nicer on the E17 and I think I would really appreciate that. I guess if within a week the availability of the E17 is good I will have to consider that as a top option. Since you know the line so well what would you say are the major differences between the E10 and the E17, saying I go with the regular impedance version (the 80 ohm) ?

I would ask or check more stuff out on Beyer's. most legit audiophile's on head fi with the beyer's would usually from what i have heard go with the higher ohm. me and everyone all just heard and thougth the higher ohms were better. bc it keeps on getting re itterated. unless the person who said that the lower one's also has the higher one's and has an amp and DAC to drive and good sound from. i would go with the pro's who actually have them.

The E17. read teh reviews. if you just need desktop. the E10.....should be a good buy. i don't have it so i can't say. i have the E17 only... if you have any qeustions on DAC's ask away.

I know the line very well. but for the E11 and E10 i can only give you summaries. do not take this as my recommendation.
the E10 is said to have a smaller soundstage, less warm vocals, and less bass punch really than the e17. the E10......is also weak in amp. unlike the E7 who has a bad amp. the E10 has a good low powered amp. from what i have heard. here is a quote from Headfonia's E17 review
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Enough crap, let’s get down to the meat. If you are an E10 owner, I need to apologize because the next paragraph is gonna hurt.Now I’m really sorry to say this because I know a lot of you just bought the E10 and it would be nice to be able to sit down and chill for a while without having to worry that there are better things out in the market already. In this aspect, I think you really should blame Fiio, not me. My job as a reviewer is to tell you guys how a certain box sounds, and in the case of the Alpen, it’s clearly better than the E10. Awwww, sorry guys.

Not better in this or that, good in certain aspects but less so in others. It’s better, no matter how you look at it, even ignoring all the added features. The reality is that if you think the E10 sounds good, then the E17 is going to be a clear upgrade. Identical tonality and sound signature means that if you like the E10′s sound, the E17 does bass/mid/treble exactly the same way. The bonus is that with the Alpen, the bass is punchier (awesome!), tighter (awesome x2), soundstage is wider, and the midrange is clearer. What is there not to like?
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is it double performance difference though? from what i have heard from users...if it's just plain desktop function...no. the E17 is double and sold out in 7 hours because it does portability and desktop so well for the price

http://www.head-fi.org/t/587912/fiio-e17-alpen-first-impression-final-thought/945#post_8106004
this user has teh $500 pico slim. read his comment. FiiO is digging up some major dislike now with the e17.

From what i have heard from other users and from the thread i posted in my first post and many others. most prefer teh higher ohm ones. it is common knowledge on head fi that higher impendance one's are better but..if you can drive them
http://www.head-fi.org/t/588321/beyerdynamic-dt990-premium-help

i do not know for usre. if you want to know. please go and ask (PM) one of those users and ask personally. i can only summarize right now and don't want you making a purchase... PLZ DON'T PURCHASE ANYTHING UNTIL YOU GET WORD FROM TEH USER THAT HAS IT throgh pm's and what not.

some of ur questoins can be answered if you re read my first post carefully and check out the links carefullly thumb.gifyessir.gif
Edited by bowness437 - 1/31/12 at 4:55pm
post #14 of 34
I'm running a ASUS Essence One. Sounds amazing and I've never been happier with it. Its 600 bones so its alot but you'll love it. Running 250ohm DT770
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It looks like the 80 ohm version is a little bassier so I think that's what I'll go with. I'm peeking at the E17 and it kind of stinks that you can't just order it atm, also looking at the E9 and wondering how much better the E9/E17 setup would be than just an E17?

I was looking and the E10 reportedly has a 7ms latency along with some other problems and since I plan to use this for gaming (and not just music) that is not acceptable. It seems like there are no competing USB/DAC in this price range so it looks like I may have to wait a few weeks until the E17 is actually available.
post #16 of 34
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It looks like the 80 ohm version is a little bassier so I think that's what I'll go with. I'm peeking at the E17 and it kind of stinks that you can't just order it atm, also looking at the E9 and wondering how much better the E9/E17 setup would be than just an E17?
I was looking and the E10 reportedly has a 7ms latency along with some other problems and since I plan to use this for gaming (and not just music) that is not acceptable. It seems like there are no competing USB/DAC in this price range so it looks like I may have to wait a few weeks until the E17 is actually available.

from what i have heard. the 7ms latency problem..only happens in the beginning. read clieos review. he said it only is initially.
post #17 of 34
tube amps are the way to go with the dt770's ive read on headfi plenty of times its the way to go so i bought a little dot MKII from david himself and boy does it help lol btw the little dot MKII was 164$ shipped i think or you can get the little dot MKIII for like 190$ but with the MKII you are able to roll tubes

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post #18 of 34
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tube amps are the way to go with the dt770's ive read on headfi plenty of times its the way to go so i bought a little dot MKII from david himself and boy does it help lol btw the little dot MKII was 164$ shipped i think or you can get the little dot MKIII for like 190$ but with the MKII you are able to roll tubes
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that is from what i have heard a good amp. don't know much about it at all though. but...an amp is just an amp. he may need a DAC. amplifying a bad signal is the same thing...a louder..warmer..muddy signal that you are dual amping with.
post #19 of 34
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Yeah my soundcard is not as bad as onboard sound but it is certainly not that great. It is a Soundblaster xi-fi extreme:

http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Labs-SB1040-Express-Blaster/dp/B000W7PNZI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1328143672&sr=1-1

It is not a true xi-fi card from what I hear... The idea of getting an amp is nice but I think I would have to get a DAC, too.
post #20 of 34
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Yeah my soundcard is not as bad as onboard sound but it is certainly not that great. It is a Soundblaster xi-fi extreme:
http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Labs-SB1040-Express-Blaster/dp/B000W7PNZI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1328143672&sr=1-1
It is not a true xi-fi card from what I hear... The idea of getting an amp is nice but I think I would have to get a DAC, too.

a lot of creative cards and other brands just make their own DAC..not audiophile. but works....every computer and device (almost) has a DAC that works.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/587912/fiio-e17-alpen-first-impression-final-thought/

im sure u've read through this page before

http://www.head-fi.org/t/587912/fiio-e17-alpen-first-impression-final-thought/765

mass receiving starts at that post above approx

other things to be warry of:
Maverick Tube MAgic D1(desktop only)
Little Dot
Objective 2 from JDlabs

only problem with the last two. which are already from what i have heard very very excellent. is they are just an amp....
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