Originally Posted by squirrelnig
@bowness thanks so much that really puts it all together, I checked out the E17 and I guess they are not available yet but fio's product info looks really nice. All I can find for the E17 is a pre-order... But it appears the E17 its twice as much as the E10, but the E10 boasts some pretty impressive specs (purely audio wise). The EQ sounds much nicer on the E17 and I think I would really appreciate that. I guess if within a week the availability of the E17 is good I will have to consider that as a top option. Since you know the line so well what would you say are the major differences between the E10 and the E17, saying I go with the regular impedance version (the 80 ohm) ?
I would ask or check more stuff out on Beyer's. most legit audiophile's on head fi with the beyer's would usually from what i have heard go with the higher ohm. me and everyone all just heard and thougth the higher ohms were better. bc it keeps on getting re itterated. unless the person who said that the lower one's also has the higher one's and has an amp and DAC to drive and good sound from. i would go with the pro's who actually have them.
The E17. read teh reviews. if you just need desktop. the E10.....should be a good buy. i don't have it so i can't say. i have the E17 only... if you have any qeustions on DAC's ask away.
I know the line very well. but for the E11 and E10 i can only give you summaries. do not take this as my recommendation.
the E10 is said to have a smaller soundstage, less warm vocals, and less bass punch really than the e17. the E10......is also weak in amp. unlike the E7 who has a bad amp. the E10 has a good low powered amp. from what i have heard. here is a quote from Headfonia's E17 review
Enough crap, let’s get down to the meat. If you are an E10 owner, I need to apologize because the next paragraph is gonna hurt.Now I’m really sorry to say this because I know a lot of you just bought the E10 and it would be nice to be able to sit down and chill for a while without having to worry that there are better things out in the market already. In this aspect, I think you really should blame Fiio, not me. My job as a reviewer is to tell you guys how a certain box sounds, and in the case of the Alpen, it’s clearly better than the E10. Awwww, sorry guys.
Not better in this or that, good in certain aspects but less so in others. It’s better, no matter how you look at it, even ignoring all the added features. The reality is that if you think the E10 sounds good, then the E17 is going to be a clear upgrade. Identical tonality and sound signature means that if you like the E10′s sound, the E17 does bass/mid/treble exactly the same way. The bonus is that with the Alpen, the bass is punchier (awesome!), tighter (awesome x2), soundstage is wider, and the midrange is clearer. What is there not to like?
is it double performance difference though? from what i have heard from users...if it's just plain desktop function...no. the E17 is double and sold out in 7 hours because it does portability and desktop so well for the price
this user has teh $500 pico slim. read his comment. FiiO is digging up some major dislike now with the e17.
From what i have heard from other users and from the thread i posted in my first post and many others. most prefer teh higher ohm ones. it is common knowledge on head fi that higher impendance one's are better but..if you can drive them
i do not know for usre. if you want to know. please go and ask (PM) one of those users and ask personally. i can only summarize right now and don't want you making a purchase... PLZ DON'T PURCHASE ANYTHING UNTIL YOU GET WORD FROM TEH USER THAT HAS IT
throgh pm's and what not.
some of ur questoins can be answered if you re read my first post carefully and check out the links carefullly Edited by bowness437 - 1/31/12 at 4:55pm