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Originally Posted by andrejse View Post

Anybody else finding ageia part interesting? Is Kepler having additional hardware for physics acceleration?


 

Most game developers aren't adopting PhysX at all. My point was they rather go 1 design. Physic base on CPU rather on Ageia because nowadays CPU are more and more powerful to run physical elements (especially on Intel CPU). Why making 2 different engine design (one for PhysX support, and the other is not because of AMD/ATI users.)

 

Most game maker company will go the least development time and money and go for the bigger market range. if they are force to run on PhysX that's only half of the market. (not exact but just saying)

 

 

NVIDIA hurry up! So I can see price drop on 7970!


Edited by djriful - 2/1/12 at 11:57am
 
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post #112 of 128
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i dont even understand the qq about power consumption.
if u can afford a high tier card you can surely afford the electric bill.

Problem is more power consumption usually means more heat. Less heat equals more over clock capabilities. The fact that the 7970 draws less power and is much cooler then previous generations is a big plus. If nvidia can't equal that they are in trouble.
 
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why do people assume that a person is green or red team when in fact the most of us (especially overclockers) are allied with the best price vs. performance (or hell, performance period.

1350mhz on water is absolutely astounding. Why doesnt AMD release high overlocked components with better CPU coolers? Such as a classifed at 1150 out of the box? Would be awesome tongue.gif
post #114 of 128
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i dont even understand the qq about power consumption.
if u can afford a high tier card you can surely afford the electric bill.
No not at all, someone may save up for a long time for a good GPU then spend all of their spare money on it.
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why do people assume that a person is green or red team when in fact the most of us (especially overclockers) are allied with the best price vs. performance (or hell, performance period.
1350mhz on water is absolutely astounding. Why doesnt AMD release high overlocked components with better CPU coolers? Such as a classifed at 1150 out of the box? Would be awesome tongue.gif

I was waiting to buy a card that pushed the limits and did at least 1100 but in all reality a majority of reference cards will obtain 1100-1150 no problem and a good flow of people getting 1200 without any issues. I'm pretty confident the new non-reference 7970's like the Asus DC2 and Msi Twin Frzr will do 1200 completely stable with there better components(vrms/capacitors) and better cooling (fans/heat sinks) even though they come oc at only 1000. Give me a stable 7970 @ 1200/1600mem in crossfire keeping me above 100fps in ultra/max on any game on a 120hz monitor I'll be plenty satisfied.
 
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Uh? AMD has been beleaguered over the past year with their CPU division, and on the GPU side...nvidia has a higher discrete market share percentage. Currently AMD has designs for all 3 upcoming consoles and a higher overall GPU market share (including discrete and OEM sales).
But nvidia has more money to throw around compared to AMD's GPU division, and has had the fastest card since 2009, so yes, AMD IS the underdog.
This is slightly off topic but I can't see anyone would think otherwise, but thats kind of why I like rooting for AMD. They are the underdog who hasn't had the fastest GPU or highest discrete share since 2009, i'm happy to see them do well. The other reasons nvidia has a sour taste in my mouth lately is their guerilla trash marketing campaign, and their CEO who seems like a complete arrogant jerk. I do like NV's products, but there's not much to like with the company because of those 2 reasons (IMO)

So what is the 7970 then?
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I have a prediction. I actually stated this almost a year ago as writing on the wall guess.
Just like AMD acquired ATI that was failing behind, I foresee Nvidia being acquired be Intel if this downward spiral continues. Either they come back with a GPU that will be on par with AMD's refresh 8000 series, or I see investors making bold moves to protect thier interests.

If my memory serves me, they were going to buy Nvidia but it fell through, the Nvidia dude wanted to be on the board of directors and lots of shares or something so they skipped and went ATI (Although I am sure there were numerous reasons it did not happen, not just the reason above)
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What if NV makes a true breakwith in regards in dynamic physics in games? What if they can make a GPU that doesn't take a ridiculously large performance hit for doing
physx as is currently the case? Personally I don't think physx is interesting AT ALL right now. Can NV improve that and make it better and faster? Would the wait be worth it? Its a tough question. Now i'm not sure if this article is true or not -- but its an interesting question.
Also: its not the end of the world if it does take that long (again, this date is speculation on my part). It happened before with the 5870, NV weathered that just fine.

+1 on the PHYSX. Would not make a lot of sense for them to have a specific part of the chip for physx only, which would idle if not implemented in a game. Sounds far fetched to me.
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Originally Posted by Chewy View Post

proof??
The time frame i mentioned was from nvidia ceo's mouth, Not another internet rumour. I know who id rather listen too.
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I thought you heard something along the lines of "in 6 paycheques". Most salaried people I know are paid bi-weekly so that would be 12 weeks.

Ya, if you actually read the whole thread you would see that's what the conclusion was.... SCRUB
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why do people assume that a person is green or red team when in fact the most of us (especially overclockers) are allied with the best price vs. performance (or hell, performance period.
1350mhz on water is absolutely astounding. Why doesnt AMD release high overlocked components with better CPU coolers? Such as a classifed at 1150 out of the box? Would be awesome tongue.gif

If that is directed towards me? I am not assuming you specifically are green/red team, just saying some are. I love my most recent AMD cards, but have had more Nvidia if anything.

I just want the best card for the best money.
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