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Looking to purchase a 60-64GB SSD which will be used to store a couple VMware virtual machines. I've narrowed it down to either the Corsair Force Series 3 (model: CSSD-F60GB3A-BK) which uses a SandForce SF-2200 controller OR go with a Samsung 830 Series (model: MZ-7PC064D/AM) which uses the 3-Core MCX controller.

In the virtual machine world, the more IOPS the better. Of these two SSD drives which should perform the best and which with the most IOPS?
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Out of the two, I'd get the Samsung. I think a synchronous SF (27nm or 34nm) would be better for your planned usage, but not the asynchronous force 3 you linked.

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Also, the crucial M4: http://www.adorama.com/CT064M4SSD2.html

Either the M4 or the Samsung, both are great drives. smile.gif

I've been running a few of mine fine, sooo much better than a HDD, so much better lol.

Stay away from Sandforce imo. tongue.gif Especially that low end one, it handles compressed data like crap. it is slow in comparison to the other two drives suggested.
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Also, the crucial M4: http://www.adorama.com/CT064M4SSD2.html

Either the M4 or the Samsung, both are great drives. smile.gif

I've been running a few of mine fine, sooo much better than a HDD, so much better lol.

Stay away from Sandforce imo. tongue.gif Especially that low end one, it handles compressed data like crap. it is slow in comparison to the other two drives suggested.

While I tend to agree with you on most things, like the force 3 being meh, non asynchronous SF would be a better option for OP's intended usage.

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Also, the crucial M4: http://www.adorama.com/CT064M4SSD2.html

Either the M4 or the Samsung, both are great drives. smile.gif

I've been running a few of mine fine, sooo much better than a HDD, so much better lol.

Stay away from Sandforce imo. tongue.gif Especially that low end one, it handles compressed data like crap. it is slow in comparison to the other two drives suggested.

While I tend to agree with you on most things, like the force 3 being meh, non asynchronous SF would be a better option for OP's intended usage.

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Why? There is practically no difference, if anything the non-SandForce will handle the compressed data better and be more reliable than a SandForce drive.
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Why? There is practically no difference, if anything the non-SandForce will handle the compressed data better and be more reliable than a SandForce drive.
 
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Also, the crucial M4: http://www.adorama.com/CT064M4SSD2.html

Either the M4 or the Samsung, both are great drives. smile.gif

I've been running a few of mine fine, sooo much better than a HDD, so much better lol.

Stay away from Sandforce imo. tongue.gif Especially that low end one, it handles compressed data like crap. it is slow in comparison to the other two drives suggested.

While I tend to agree with you on most things, like the force 3 being meh, non asynchronous SF would be a better option for OP's intended usage.

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Why? There is practically no difference, if anything the non-SandForce will handle the compressed data better and be more reliable than a SandForce drive.

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Your point? The samsung is comparable to Sandforce drives in that nature. And at an average user level there is no way that he would be writing so much that he will see a hit.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

Also, the crucial M4: http://www.adorama.com/CT064M4SSD2.html
Either the M4 or the Samsung, both are great drives. smile.gif
I've been running a few of mine fine, sooo much better than a HDD, so much better lol.
Stay away from Sandforce imo. tongue.gif Especially that low end one, it handles compressed data like crap. it is slow in comparison to the other two drives suggested.

Between the replies I'm getting so far and the reviews I've seen about how reliable the Samsung's are I believe I'm likely going to pick up a Samsung 830.
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While I tend to agree with you on most things, like the force 3 being meh, non asynchronous SF would be a better option for OP's intended usage.
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Earlier you mentioned you'd recommend the Samsung over the Corsair so I'm following you there, however the rest of the thread it seemed to steer off and started to lose me. Am I right to say that you DO agree to go with the Samsung SSD? Is there another drive you'd recommend over the Samsung, like as Sean did in his above reply?

Just want to make sure I'm following everyone.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

Also, the crucial M4: http://www.adorama.com/CT064M4SSD2.html
Either the M4 or the Samsung, both are great drives. smile.gif
I've been running a few of mine fine, sooo much better than a HDD, so much better lol.
Stay away from Sandforce imo. tongue.gif Especially that low end one, it handles compressed data like crap. it is slow in comparison to the other two drives suggested.

Between the replies I'm getting so far and the reviews I've seen about how reliable the Samsung's are I believe I'm likely going to pick up a Samsung 830.
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While I tend to agree with you on most things, like the force 3 being meh, non asynchronous SF would be a better option for OP's intended usage.
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Earlier you mentioned you'd recommend the Samsung over the Corsair so I'm following you there, however the rest of the thread it seemed to steer off and started to lose me. Am I right to say that you DO agree to go with the Samsung SSD? Is there another drive you'd recommend over the Samsung, like as Sean did in his above reply?

Just want to make sure I'm following everyone.
Yes out of those two get the Samsung. Just about everyone here would have you believe that there are literally zero usage situations where a synchronous SF would be better, but I disagree with this notion. I already said what I'd get instead (27nm or 34nm synchronous SF), but the latter doesn't come in a 60gb flavor. That being said, the Samsung is a good choice for your intended usage, but the m4 wouldn't be imo.

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