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Z77 "may" offer better boards with proper overclocking. Current Z68 ITX boards either have bad rep (Zotac) or down throttle too much due to VRM load/heat (ASrock). I was going to recommend an Asus P8H67-I (not the deluxe version) but nobody seems to sell it in the USA anymore.
EDIT: Found this!:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18366157
and this:
http://www.shuttle.eu/products/mini-pc/sz68r5/specification/
That's not all folks:
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Shuttle Pc? no thanks.. I would pick up SG07/8 (sff rig) and iTX board instead of that.
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^This.

How about just put some heatsinks on the board? Those things cost just few bucks...
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The build looks good, nothing wrong with it really other than the Lian Li case but that's just me as I hate lian li (no painted interiors).

So, in a case w/o side windows you don't like the color of the inside parts you can't see? rolleyes.gif
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What I've heard is that there isn't many good mitx boards out, and the few that are fine aren't that awesome.

Just remove "overclocking" and "Zotac" from your vocabulary and the mini ITX boards end up the same as any other size board. biggrin.gif
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I will admit, I am rather picky about my power supplies. But if you can supply a link to a review of one that will fit (and is modular!) in an m-ITX build, I would consider it.

Why modular? Why not buy the wattage you need and end up with maybe only one spare cable, which you can use cable ties to tidy up. Oh yeah, and you've probably never lost or misplaced a modular cable before. Come upgrade time, a real kick in the nads to find out your wife tossed that box 'o cables you were hanging on to, which included the spare modular cables for your PSU.

Oh yeah, and why fanless PSU? The graphics card fan will be noisier than almost all PSU fans.
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Thanks. I won't be purchasing it just quite yet, I want to make sure I get everything just right.

So, when? If it is after Ivy Bridge and Z77, then we are wasting our time with current recommendations.
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post #14 of 56
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So, in a case w/o side windows you don't like the color of the inside parts you can't see? rolleyes.gif
Yup, pretty much. Plain metal interior looks fugly in my eyes and if I know it's there, it'll bother me. Same goes with blue pcb on gpu (which isnt as serious as the case interior though).
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Just remove "overclocking" and "Zotac" from your vocabulary and the mini ITX boards end up the same as any other size board. biggrin.gif
Indeed... Zotac is a decent manufacturer tho, and nothing wrong with their board as long as it isn't marketed as "overclocking cabable". It'd probably do 4.0-4.5ghz fine if one were to put some heatsinks on it.
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Why modular? Why not buy the wattage you need and end up with maybe only one spare cable, which you can use cable ties to tidy up. Oh yeah, and you've probably never lost or misplaced a modular cable before. Come upgrade time, a real kick in the nads to find out your wife tossed that box 'o cables you were hanging on to, which included the spare modular cables for your PSU.

Oh yeah, and why fanless PSU? The graphics card fan will be noisier than almost all PSU fans.
Modular is just so much easier to work with, no need to tie any extra cables up if there is none. Less cable clutter = less headache when working on it. But yeah, it's just a convenience.
Also, fanless psu is another convenience. Just a tiny bit less sound which I can appreciate as I used to have my pc 3 feet away from my head when I was sleeping.
Plus both are good for your e-peen, much like platinum efficiency tongue.gif
post #15 of 56
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Originally Posted by Zap View Post

Why modular? Why not buy the wattage you need and end up with maybe only one spare cable, which you can use cable ties to tidy up. Oh yeah, and you've probably never lost or misplaced a modular cable before. Come upgrade time, a real kick in the nads to find out your wife tossed that box 'o cables you were hanging on to, which included the spare modular cables for your PSU.

Because it is so much cleaner, and so much easier to work with.

I have not, I keep them in the box they came in. I don't have a wife, and my girlfriends knows not to just toss random boxes of mine out.
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Oh yeah, and why fanless PSU? The graphics card fan will be noisier than almost all PSU fans.

The fanless wasn't part of the picky-ness, but it is a nice bonus.
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So, when? If it is after Ivy Bridge and Z77, then we are wasting our time with current recommendations.

Within the next couple of weeks. I have to sell my current tower first.
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Originally Posted by Blizlake View Post

Yup, pretty much. Plain metal interior looks fugly in my eyes and if I know it's there, it'll bother me. Same goes with blue pcb on gpu (which isnt as serious as the case interior though).

I dunno, I kind of like the metallic look of the interior.
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Indeed... Zotac is a decent manufacturer tho, and nothing wrong with their board as long as it isn't marketed as "overclocking cabable". It'd probably do 4.0-4.5ghz fine if one were to put some heatsinks on it.

Eh, I don't really plan on overclocking with this build. I'll be building a system later down the road that is just beastly, and I'll overclock the %#@$ out of it. But not this one. ^.^
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Originally Posted by Blizlake View Post

Modular is just so much easier to work with, no need to tie any extra cables up if there is none. Less cable clutter = less headache when working on it. But yeah, it's just a convenience.
Also, fanless psu is another convenience. Just a tiny bit less sound which I can appreciate as I used to have my pc 3 feet away from my head when I was sleeping.
Plus both are good for your e-peen, much like platinum efficiency tongue.gif

Pretty much this.
post #16 of 56
^ The bare metal interior goes well with silver cases, forgot to mention redface.gif

I'm jumping between mITX build and a full tower with atx or eATX mobo, I just wish there was even a single mitx mobo capable for decent overclocks and I'd jump for it right away
post #17 of 56
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Originally Posted by Blizlake View Post

Indeed... Zotac is a decent manufacturer tho, and nothing wrong with their board as long as it isn't marketed as "overclocking cabable". It'd probably do 4.0-4.5ghz fine if one were to put some heatsinks on it.

it's not just zotac. it's the form factor and the manufactures attitude towards it. ITX is the smallest "real" computer you can get and for some reason manufactures think it's the budget crowd that wants them. so as such, constrained by both budget AND form factor, manufactures simply put some cheap VRM in the system and call it the day. currently they neither have the budget nor the space to put large VRM's that is capable of heavy OCing in the ITX form factor. Zotac isnt the only one having problem with OCing in ITX. asrock has the same problems.(tho zotac bios seems to be more buggy)

until the high performance consumers show ALOT MORE interest in the form factor, ITX will always be treated as the red headed stepchild of mATX. manufactures such as ASUS is finally stepping up to make REAL mATX boards instead of the budget crap they used to push out. so EVENTUALLY, there might be hope for the ITX, but just not this generation. maybe with the low power consumption of ivybridge(22nm) ITX may get some love for a decent VRM still tho. that's alot to hope for.
post #18 of 56
^ when have I said anything different?
post #19 of 56
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Please don't start a debate in here, guys. If you want to discuss the availability of features, supply, and demand of mITX or mATX motherboards, please do so over PMs.

So can anyone see anything wrong with the build, or would care to give a build they would recommend?

I would also like to ask about the 7800 series, which is what I plan on upgrading to when they come out. Do you think they'll be able to fit in that case?
post #20 of 56
From the specs I've seen, Q11 can take GPU's up to 8,5" long.
The 7950 is like 10.25" long and I don't think the 7800-series cards will be any longer, maybe even a bit smaller, but still it probably wouldn't fit.
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