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Hello guys, I'm basically new here and wanted your opinions on this build plan. There are some questions within the information but I summarized the components at the end for you to look at.
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CASE: Corsair Carbide Series 500R Black

2 x 120mm intake front. Noctua NF-F12s (1500 RPM, 54.97 CFM)
2 x 120mm intake side. Noctua NF-F12s (1500 RPM, 54.97 CFM)
2 x 120mm exhaust top. Noctua NF-S12Bs (1200 RPM, 59.2 CFM)
1 x 120mm exhaust rear. Noctua NF-S12B (1200 RPM, 59.2 CFM)

Intake: 4x120mm (480mm total).
Outtake: 3x 120mm (360mm total).
Outcome: Positive pressure.

I was planning on running with Noctua NF-S12B for case ventilation fans (120mm) as they are designed for quietness and ventilation, and on the side window 2 x NF-F12s as they are designed to cool heatsink/radiators. Since I'm going with 2x N580 lightning edition cards I'd like to make sure they are getting the attention they need unless you have good reasons why I shouldn't do it in this manner.

PSU: Corsair AX1200 1200W (90% efficiency at 50% load) or ...
SeaSonic Platinum-1000 (90% @ 20% load, 92% @ 50% load and 89% @ 100% load.

I wonder if any of you can take a guess at the power consumption the build might have at 100% load on CPU and both GPUs to help me make the decision on the 1000w or the 1200w, I am kind of leaning towards the Seasonic just because of the fact that its absolutely silent (no fan action at all) up until 20% load, after which its silent up until about 60 or 70% load when it starts to increase. But on the other hand I wonder if using the 1200w will future proof me a little more, I don't plan on adding a 3rd card in the near future tbh.

MOTHERBOARD: ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3

CPU: Intel Core i7 Processor i7-2600K 3.4 GHz 8MB LGA1155 CPU
Reason I went for this over the i5 2500k is I plan on working with 3D modelling, video transcoding and editing, photoshop etc not just gaming. Plus I just feel it will be a more powerful processor when overclocked and appropriately cooled.

Will the Noctua's thermal compound be better than the latest Arctic Silver equivalent?

CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-D14 with 2x NF-F12s (PWMs) instead of stock fans.

I would like to know if this coolers fans can be aimed towards the rear exhaust on the case, doesn't look flush with it but would seem optimal from what I can see without actually building this rig and looking.

MEMORY:
G-Skill Ripjaws X 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3 PC3 12800 1600MHz Memory (F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH) 40mm height £79.66 Inc Vat
CAS Latency 7-8-7-24-2N
or
G-Skill Sniper 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3 PC3 12800 1600MHz Memory (F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2) 42mm height £42.16 Inc Vat
CAS Latency 9-9-9-24-2N

So I have a choice between the above 2 modules, the CAS7 module is £30 or so more expensive (or at least so I have found) and the difference in timings would seem fairly minimal in real world application, so I ask you if there are any, ANY situations where the CAS7 pair would be warranted. The other benefit to the CAS7 pair is that with the Noctua NH-D14 in play it requires 44mm of clearance, the CAS9 pair are at 42 leaving me a whole 2mm of space between the RAM chip and the cooler.

Alternatively I could get taller RAM and just put them in the other two banks, but I would only take this route if the RAM chips had cooling benefits stock or aftermarket.

GRAPHICS CARDS: 2 x MSI GeForce GTX 580 Twin Frozr II in SLI

MONITOR: BenQ XL2410T 120hz
There are so many freakin options when it comes to monitors I am a little overwhelmed. I am looking for an LCD monitor with dual link DVI and 2 HDMI, but I am willing to make do with 1 HDMI if the picture quality is amazing. So if anyone has any ideas please hit me with them!

Summary:

CASE: Corsair Carbide Series 500R Black
PSU: Corsair AX1200 1200W (90% efficiency at 50% load) or ...
SeaSonic Platinum-1000 (90% @ 20% load, 92% @ 50% load and 89% at 100% load.
MOTHERBOARD: ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3
CPU: Intel Core i7 Processor i7-2600K 3.4 GHz 8MB LGA1155 CPU
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 with 2x NF-F12s (PWMs) instead of stock fans.
RAM: G-Skill Ripjaws X 8GB (4GBx2) or G-Skill Sniper 8GB (4GBx2)
GPU1: MSI GeForce GTX 580 Twin Frozr II
GPU2: MSI GeForce GTX 580 Twin Frozr II

So, this is my build so far, still some work to do on other components (SSD and Hard Disks, Keyboard, Mouse etc) but this is my core build.

Comments? Suggestions? Queries?
post #2 of 11
Nice build,! good choice of cpu,ram and board. Only thing i can say is i would regret splashing out for 2x gtx 580's when there replacements are due out soon. Have you considered the hd 7970 gpu's in sli they will leave the 580's to dust for the same price.

The £30 difference in ram seems over the top and i would stick to the 9-9-9-24 You wont notice the difference.
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As far as I know the Noctua performs worse then Thermalright's Silver Arrow and they area round the same price. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermalright-silver-arrow.html
Edited by UltraHoboLord - 2/1/12 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by Chewy View Post

Nice build,! good choice of cpu,ram and board. Only thing i can say is i would regret splashing out for 2x gtx 580's when there replacements are due out soon. Have you considered the hd 7970 gpu's in sli they will leave the 580's to dust for the same price.
The £30 difference in ram seems over the top and i would stick to the 9-9-9-24 You wont notice the difference.

Well, I'm sure its prowess enough until PCI-E 3.0 compatible gear comes out as I've never trusted Radeon due to problems in the past. Plus Physx only works with a hack/emulation and Nvidia seems to be dominating the market at the moment so until that changes I'm not going to consider an ATI card. Thanks for the suggestion though in particular about the RAM, I'll need to examine the cooler because of the chip size however - bringing me to my next reply.
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As far as I know the Noctua performs worse then Thermalright's Silver Arrow. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermalright-silver-arrow.html

Really? I will look at comparisons, as far as I could see in a general sense most seemed to consider the Noctua the best at air cooling, what about the fans I have selected in the case? Those are also Noctua and if there are better ones I'd like to know.
Edited by Kaytfoh - 2/1/12 at 7:17am
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I would definitely agree with chewy. Get a pair of amd 7950's or 7970's or wait for kepler to be released.
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No Problem, stick to nvidia i too am waiting for keplar to arrive thumb.gif
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post #7 of 11
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I would definitely agree with chewy. Get a pair of amd 7950's or 7970's or wait for kepler to be released.

My problem with ATI is they always seem to be performance over stability, and nvidia have always seemed to be near the same performance but stable. Last time I had a sapphire 256mb card (at the time Halo PC came out) and it would play for a small amount of time and lock my PC up, after putting back in a Geforce Ti 4 something (can't quite remember) the game was stable. Since then I've never touched another ATI card haha. I'm probably biased by that I suppose.

But in terms of waiting, it wouldn't be that much of a performance gain, plus anything brand new will come at a heavy price initially. For that I will wait until Ivy bridge processors come down in price so I can fit a PCI-E 3 card.
Edited by Kaytfoh - 2/1/12 at 7:29am
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Really? I will look at comparisons, as far as I could see in a general sense most seemed to consider the Noctua the best at air cooling, what about the fans I have selected in the case? Those are also Noctua and if there are better ones I'd like to know.

The Silver Arrow is cooler because of it's heat sink design Noctua's fans are fine. I've heard really nice things about the Scythe Gentle Typhoon but I don't have any experience myself.
Edited by UltraHoboLord - 2/1/12 at 7:31am
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My problem with ATI is they always seem to be performance over stability, and nvidia have always seemed to be near the same performance but stable. Last time I had a sapphire 256mb card (at the time Halo PC came out) and it would play for a small amount of time and lock my PC up, after putting back in a Geforce Ti 4 something (can't quite remember) the game was stable. Since then I've never touched another ATI card haha. I'm probably biased by that I suppose.
But in terms of waiting, it wouldn't be that much of a performance gain, plus anything brand new will come at a heavy price initially. For that I will wait until Ivy bridge processors come down in price so I can fit a PCI-E 3 card.

Their driver have gotten WAY better since then thumb.gif . I would say get two 7950s or 7970s because they are around the same price as two 580s but perform better
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Originally Posted by UltraHoboLord View Post

Their driver have gotten WAY better since then thumb.gif . I would say get two 7950s or 7970s because they are around the same price as two 580s but perform better

I will bear that in mind with the final selection, feel up to commenting on the other questions in the OP? In particular the one regarding power consumption for the kit I have included so I know to go for the 1000w or the 1200w.

In regards to the Noctua vs Silver Arrow situation, the arrow has 4 x 8mm heat pipes, and the Noctua has 6 x 6mm heatpipes, the Noctua wins on this aspect but the only other major difference is that the arrow has 2 x 140mm fans as opposed to the Noctua having a 140mm and a 120mm fan with it. I suspect that the difference in temps is the arrows mounting capability (the increased pressure on the processor) and the extra 20mm of fan action.

Other than that there is little difference between them so now I'm unsure as to how to choose between them! lol
Edited by Kaytfoh - 2/1/12 at 8:29am
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