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"40,000 Apple fanbois demand $1000+ iPhone 5"

Sadly it is true. If every factory that produced components for the iPhone payed fair wages, and had safety standards up to that of a more modernized nation like the UK or Germany, prices would likely be a significant amount higher.

I'm as much of a sympathizer with abused workers as the next guy, but even Apple isn't stupid enough not to realize that people won't buy a phone for anything higher than $300ish
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I think you guys are forgetting that the iPhone and most other similar smartphones cost ~$800 without a contract, already. It's only "$300ish" in the US where and when it's subsidized by the carriers in exchange for a two year contract in which you're paying an 8000% markup on the service. So basically you're already paying ~$2,000 a year for your phone. Read this.

 

In a lot of other countries, people pay full price for the phone and have cheap, no-contract service.

 

"Hurr hurr but then I'd have to pay $1000 for my next iPhone..." You already do, you're just being bamboozled into thinking you're getting a deal.

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I think you guys are forgetting that the iPhone and most other similar smartphones cost ~$800 without a contract, already. It's only "$300ish" in the US where and when it's subsidized by the carriers in exchange for a two year contract in which you're paying an 8000% markup on the service. So basically you're already paying ~$2,000 a year for your phone. Read this.

In a lot of other countries, people pay full price for the phone and have cheap, no-contract service.

"Hurr hurr but then I'd have to pay $1000 for my next iPhone..." You already do, you're just being bamboozled into thinking you're getting a deal.

yes, but what if the subsidized price went up to $1000 because of higher production costs? What if plan costs went up more to cover the subsidy to keep them at a lower price?

Someone has to pick up the tab, these things don't pay for themselves.


"Hurr durr the nice Telecom is just going to pick up the tab for my shiny new phone, and just take less profit out of the kindness of their hearts."
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yes, but what if the subsidized price went up to $1000 because of higher production costs? What if plan costs went up more to cover the subsidy to keep them at a lower price?
Someone has to pick up the tab, these things don't pay for themselves.
"Hurr durr the nice Telecom is just going to pick up the tab for my shiny new phone, and just take less profit out of the kindness of their hearts."


If the subsidized price was $1,000, that would mean by my estimation that the total, non-contract price of the phone would be around, say $3,000. That's not realistic at all.

 

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If the subsidized price was $1,000, that would mean by my estimation that the total, non-contract price of the phone would be around, say $3,000. That's not realistic at all.

says who? We have not defined how much the subsidy is. It could be a $1100 phone, with $100 subsidy.

EDIT: more realistically: It could be a $1600 phone, with a $600 sub (same as current sub). The phones (base model) are USD 1k in Germany, so i mean, it is not unlikely that it could be $1600 unsubsidised if it was "ethically" produced.


this still does not change that fact that improving working conditions and wages will increase prices for the consumer.
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People should just stop buying Apple products.
 
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People should just stop buying Apple products.

and buy what? The Motorola/HTC/Samsung/etc products manufactured in the next room?
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What annoys me is how ill informed and ignorant most people are.
Yes Apple partakes in this, however (and here's the kicker fellas) so does every other major electronics company out there!

the issue isnt that they are doing it any no one else is, the issue is that they sell so darn many of their stupid phones that seeing them go "ethical" would make more of a difference than any other phone.
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and buy what? The Motorola/HTC/Samsung/etc products manufactured in the next room?

yes. love my samsung media player. wish it was my phone. but i dont have a smart phone.
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yes. love my samsung media player. wish it was my phone. but i dont have a smart phone.

I think you missed the point.

If you want a mobile device, it is almost certainly going to manufactured in a facility similar to the one that the people in this article are protesting.
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