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I've been saying this about Physx for years. Anyway, both sides may have done some shady things over the years but with Nvidia it just seems like standard business practice. I'll likely skip Kepler and buy 7970's once the price gets a little more reasonable. Or maybe even wait for a refresh.
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Originally Posted by JunkoXan View Post

i like PhysX biggrin.gif can't convince me any other way sure many games don't use it but i don't use it for games but rather for physic's testing i do redface.gif

physx testing?

explain how would physx help you do real world stuff


im puzzled actually
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can you prove that it wont? XD

judging by the amount of people who feel they need to showcase their 20 000$ pc all over the place makes me think otherwise


but its not a sound science so who am i to know for sure




ohh and btw lol at all the obr stuff
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If what charlie says is true and its a big friggin IF, the high end nvidia card not the GK104 should wipe the floor with 7970 not just beat it,

I have a strong feeling nvidia wouldn't release a card that only performs great with physx, this would be pointless as there simple isn't enough games that support it and in 90% of cases it would fail the whole marketing strategy.

My guess is were gona see 7970 performance on the mid range nvidia card once overclocked but the high end nvidia 680 or 780 whatever they call it is going to be around 20% quicker than the 7970. Speculation of course.
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i doubt that nvidia would really have something this powerful .. mid end gpu that rivals amd's high end gpu? LOL sure ..
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physx testing?
explain how would physx help you do real world stuff

I used to do 'physics' testing in university using computers
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Reminds me of the Kyro II, which cost $149 and beat the $340 Geforce 2 Ultra in some games but got crushed in others.

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I hope kepler will not disappoint.
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I think nVidia is puting everything into this card series... : ) I am happy to see that nVidia is coming back on the top!
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post #109 of 204
Quote:
Originally Posted by dantoddd View Post

I used to do 'physics' testing in university using computers

and how does physx relates to physics simulation?
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post #110 of 204
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Originally Posted by dantoddd View Post

I used to do 'physics' testing in university using computers

Let me guess, "but then you took an arrow in the knee".
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Originally Posted by xoleras View Post

Yeah I did,
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How many other games have had this level of attention and optimisation gifted upon them is another open question. One thing we can say is that the list of benchmarks shown off by Nvidia where Kepler has an overwhelming advantage all support PhysX.
Sounds like the advantage is in physx games and everything else will be slower than pitcairn.

You do understand that the quote you pulled out of the article doesn't say anything about the GK104 only being good at PhysX right?

Text analysis:

Line 1: How many games will get this level attention from nVidia?
Line 2: Let's take an example of nVidia's current support in games, IF it's going to be the same as PhysX then the set of games that this card will shine in is really narrow. The benchmarks shown off by nVidia all used the PhysX engine and overwhelmingly beat the 7970 (note how this doesn't say anything about the performance excluding these games)

How you reach the conclusion GK104 will only be good in PhysX titles from this, I do not understand confused.gif

Or you forgot line 3 that followed directly after the text you picked:
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This is not to say that they are all hardware/GPU PhysX accelerated, they are not, most use the software API.

Your comprehension of the article would also contradict the conclusion:
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Nvidia is going out of their way to have patches coded for games that tend to be used as benchmarks by popular sites.

PhysX only runs on games that are coded from scratch with the PhysX engine. How will they get reviewers so far to benchmark only 2 or 3 games? He's talking about popular games not necessarily games that use the PhysX engine.

Not saying I necessarily like these tactics but it would be pointless of nVidia to go with those tactics for only 2 or 3 games per year. Nor would charlie say that this SKU stomps the 7970 on nearly all metrics.
Edited by TheBlademaster01 - 2/2/12 at 1:44am
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