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So basically this card will dominate in nvidia/physx friendly games, but fail in others?

yawn
post #32 of 204
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Originally Posted by Akheton View Post

So if this is true, GK104, a $299 GPU, will exceed the performance of a 7970, a $550 GPU, in some games, while it's performance in others will drop to the level of a 7870 or 7850 (Pitcairn). Again, if true, the fact that a mid-range GPU can outperform the competition's high-range GPU in some games, while matching their mid-range GPU in others is a positive not a negative.
I'm sure a lot of people would be thrilled if they could spend $299 on a GPU and get 7970 or greater performance out of it in popular games like BF3 and what not.

Well if it means optimizing a game for a GTX and NOT for a 7970, I wouldn't be happy. An open standard where new gen cards would benefit would make me happy.
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So it will be MUCH slower in ordinary games, but faster in physx games?

Don't wake me up when Kepler is released rolleyes.gif Not interested
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wow!! All I see is innovation beging stymied so compines can put fake numbers on the screen for epeen. Why have a better card when we can have smoke and mirrors. Geez and then the "higher end" cards are going to be 600 dollars. It would be nice if there was a non profit org. that could test independitly so there was none of this crap.

No one is putting up fake numbers.
In the end all programmers do is try to write code that is written optimally for the hardware it's going to be played on. When you're developing a video game code is written and re-written in order to make the game run faster and smooter. Nvidia's in-house agents are just helping programmers do what they are trying to do in the first place.

Now Nvidia's slogan really makes sense...

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You originally said
"If it is able to TROUNCE a 7970 in at least a few games, for only $300?!?!=BIG WIN."
The thing is it will beat the 7970 in some games and programs that the Physx, or optimized shaders, as the article makes out will take advantage of. This might show well in benchmarks, but when it comes to real life gaming those few programs and games are few amongst many and the 7970 will still be the better card.
This is dirty tricks by Nvidia to sell their cards and make them look better than they really are.

This is the problem I have with brand loyalty. Nvidia is trying to be innovative with this GK104, but somehow you see that as "cheating". rolleyes.gif Working with dev's is cheating? I call that being proactive and smart when you undercut the competitor. thumb.gif Just like AMD releasing their cards with no competition in sight from Nvidia. Great move for them. thumb.gif They already have a nice stranglehold on the nex-gen GPU market. That will get even tighter with more delays from Nvidia.
post #36 of 204
Thats cute chazzy but we get 1 physx game per 8 months on average. So it will be fast in that 1 physx game but suck at everything else. rolleyes.gif

Thanks, but i'll pass if these rumors are true. What a joke. I thought Kepler would be good.
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This is the problem I have with brand loyalty. Nvidia is trying to be innovative with this GK104, but somehow you see that as "cheating". rolleyes.gif Working with dev's is cheating? I call that being proactive and smart when you undercut the competitor. thumb.gif Just like AMD releasing their cards with no competition in sight from Nvidia. Great move for them. thumb.gif They already have a nice stranglehold on the nex-gen GPU market. That will get even tighter with more delays from Nvidia.

Using your argument we can say AMD was innovative with the faildozer, with the 2 applications that it beats the 2700k in. Balls in your court.

I'd rather have a card faster across the board, not one that is fast in a physx game but suck at everything else.
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Well if it means optimizing a game for a GTX and NOT for a 7970, I wouldn't be happy. An open standard where new gen cards would benefit would make me happy.

True, optimizing for GK104 at the expense of crippling AMD cards isn't something anyone wants to see, other than the people at Nvidia's marketing and sales divisions of course.
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I can only think of one game that actually has the option to turn on Phsyx (Mafia 2) and all it does is lower your FPS. The game looks great without it, I don't think many future games will bother with it either.
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Thats cute chazzy but we get 1 physx game per 8 months on average. So it will be fast in that 1 physx game but suck at everything else. rolleyes.gif
Thanks, but i'll pass if these rumors are true. What a joke. I thought Kepler would be good.

Ah it probably will be decent, all this is just speculation from semi accurate. He did hit the wood screw on the head with fermi, but even in this article he admits a lot of unknowns.
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