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One more quick question if you don't mind, if I test with a game, let's say BF3, and the game with the current clock, doesn't show problems in-game, how would I know if the hipotetic max temps, or even voltages I've chosen would be tolerable to not damage the hardware?
 
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One more quick question if you don't mind, if I test with a game, let's say BF3, and the game with the current clock, doesn't show problems in-game, how would I know if the hipotetic max temps, or even voltages I've chosen would be tolerable to not damage the hardware?

You could back off the voltages in small increments until you start getting hard locks or artifacts. That way you can essentially find the lowest voltage for the chosen clocks.
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One more quick question if you don't mind, if I test with a game, let's say BF3, and the game with the current clock, doesn't show problems in-game, how would I know if the hipotetic max temps, or even voltages I've chosen would be tolerable to not damage the hardware?

Thermal shutoff for a 5870 is ~100C, though generally want to keep it under 85c but that's personal preference. Max voltage that can be applied without damaging the card is around ~1.3.
Edited by SkippyDogg - 2/2/12 at 5:30pm
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Thank you for your replies. I'm making tests at the moment and I'm doing like this:

- Default clocks and voltage (850/1200 @ 1.1625v);
- Bump GPU clock to 900Mhz;
- Played about half hour -> Everything ok! (no artifacts and max temps ok);
- Bump GPU clock to 910Mhz;
- Played about half hour -> Everything ok! (no artifacts and max temps ok);
- etc...

I'm not going to touch the memory clock for now. If it gets unstable, can I raise the voltage to 1.2v and repeat the procedure if the temps stay within proper values? I don't want to take it besides that to not damage the card.
What's the easiest way to check the max temp the card has reached after playing for half hour? I'm asking this because GPU-Z has tons of sensors and neither one of them showed me the same temperature that FurMark showed me at the end of the test.

BTW, thanks for all the help so far. I really appreciate it.
 
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I'm still a bit confused because now that I'm at stock voltage and stock memory clock, I've gone up to 940Mhz of GPU clock and still, in-game I can't see any kind of problems.
However, if I try to do a FurMark test it will definitely give artifacts and freeze my entire computer.

What should I trust then tongue.gif? What I play? Am I not frying the card? The temps are ok. Every sensor in GPU-Z are not even hitting 60 ºC yet...
 
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I'm still a bit confused because now that I'm at stock voltage and stock memory clock, I've gone up to 940Mhz of GPU clock and still, in-game I can't see any kind of problems.
However, if I try to do a FurMark test it will definitely give artifacts and freeze my entire computer.
What should I trust then tongue.gif? What I play? Am I not frying the card? The temps are ok. Every sensor in GPU-Z are not even hitting 60 ºC yet...

Use MSI Afterburner to monitor temperatures and fan speed during game or tests. Yes you can bump up the GPU voltage to as high as 1.3, just don't go above that. And me personally I would trust FurMark than BF3 because your overclock might be stable in one game but not in another.
Edited by SkippyDogg - 2/2/12 at 7:29pm
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Use MSI Afterburner to monitor temperatures and fan speed during game or tests. Yes you can bump up the GPU voltage to as high as 1.3, just don't go above that. And me personally I would trust FurMark than BF3 because your overclock might be stable in one game but not in another.

Hmm some say to use the games I play, others to use FurMark... I really don't know what to do. Is BF3 a bad game to test? I've got it up to 950Mhz GPU clock and still now problems in-game. I've not tried FurMark but it'll crash certainly.

I understand that programs like Heaven DX11 or 3DMark are diferent than FurMark but are they reliable? I mean, when I use FurMark, in stock memory and voltage I can't pass the 920Mhz mark without getting artifacts and crashing the whole PC. In Heaven DX11 for example, I can run the card at 960Mhz with a slightly increase to 1.2v. Not to talk about the temperatures. Compared to FurMark, I'm getting temperatures alot lower (~60 ºC).
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Is there a max safe core speed? With 1.2v and 1200Mhz of memory clock, I can get 970Mhz of GPU clock and running for some time in Heaven DX11 without showing artifacts. I've tried 980Mhz but it started to crash. So since I can't go any higher on the clock I would need to higher the voltage but I don't want to risk the card even more.

With these results on Heaven DX11, playing a game like BF3 without any problems and with temps at maximum ~60 ºC am I safe to leave it like this? Should I try to bump the memory to at least 1300Mhz?
Still I haven't found the best way to monitor the highest temperature while testing or playing. I can't use MSI Afterburner because it won't let me tweak the voltage and GPU-Z has a ton of sensors with temps!


Thank you.
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Is there a max safe core speed? With 1.2v and 1200Mhz of memory clock, I can get 970Mhz of GPU clock and running for some time in Heaven DX11 without showing artifacts. I've tried 980Mhz but it started to crash. So since I can't go any higher on the clock I would need to higher the voltage but I don't want to risk the card even more.
With these results on Heaven DX11, playing a game like BF3 without any problems and with temps at maximum ~60 ºC am I safe to leave it like this? Should I try to bump the memory to at least 1300Mhz?
Still I haven't found the best way to monitor the highest temperature while testing or playing. I can't use MSI Afterburner because it won't let me tweak the voltage and GPU-Z has a ton of sensors with temps!
Thank you.

Okay, calm down!

GPU-z will indicate what every sensor are reading. This is the best monitor to make sure the card isn't over heating.
Everything saying GPU Temperature/Temp (#1,2,3) try to keep bellow 80-85.

If you have VDDC reading temperature, these are the VRM if I am not mistaken and they are fine up to 115 but I wouldn't run that hot.

You should start GPU-z on background, do a mild overclock and play a bit. Click on the temperature reading numbers so you can set it to show the max value and show us the screenshot!

I usually monitor my FPS via MSI as posted above so I can see if the overclock is really helping to pull more FPS.

Furmark pulls way more power from your card than any other game/benchmark. It is possible a little component is overheating and making the card crash. It could explain why you don't see that happen in game. There can be a ton of other explanation! As long as it is running fine on the game you want to play, then why do you want to find a error that isn't hapenning? Forget Furmark! This program will just damage your card more you use it.

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Thank you smile.gif. I'm currently making my tests with Heaven DX11 and BF3. Funny that inside Heaven it could hold 980Mhz on GPU clock with 1.2v but when I went to BF3 it started giving artifacts after a bit playing.
Do you think I should try to bump the voltage to 1.25v and try to hit 1Ghz in GPU clock?


Thank you.
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