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For CPU block, the XSPC Raystorm or Koolance CPU-370 are two of the most popular blocks at the moment. I prefer the Raystorm, it 's nice and low restriction, which doesn't matter for a cpu-only loop but is great if you end up adding multiple blocks later on, and it's always nice to have that option. As a bonus, it's fairly affordable, I want to say I've seen it on sale for ~$50 recently. The cross-flow radiator seems like it'd be harder to route in an 800D than a traditional radiator, and as much as I like Hardware Labs' radiators (Black Ice Xtreme III and Black Ice Pro III in two of my systems), when it comes to a thin radiator I'd go with the EX360. The D5 pump is solid, as for a bay reservoir that comes down to whatever you like the looks of.

For fittings, you'll need 2 per component, matching the size of the tubing you intend to use. With a pump/res combo, that'd mean 6 fittings. I'm a fan of traditional barbs and hoseclamps, like the RX360 kit had, they're dead simple to work and IMO tops for reliability. The pump should draw between 15w and 25w, I'll let you decide if you think you need more headroom. I wouldn't bother with a special coolant, you can't beat distilled water for cooling capability, and any of the nonconductive coolants aren't going to stay nonconductive for long once they're running in your loop. It's pretty much only useful for when you're first testing things. If you power up the pump without running power to the rest of the pc, you can easily leak test without risk of damaging something, worst-case scenario you'll be airing out a component for a couple of days.
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Thanks for the info +rep
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Do compression fittings offer added security against leaks? Also, if I were to use these fittings, would I also use the same diameter tubing (1/4")
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I personally trust barbs and hose clamps over compression fittings, but they're certainly not unsecure. With compression fittings, you need to make sure both the ID and OD of the tubing match, where with barbs it's just the ID that's important. I'd go with a larger tubing, 3/8" as a minimum really. 3/8", 7/16", and 1/2" are the most popular choices, there's really no performance difference at these sizes, cooling-wise, but the smaller tubing makes tighter bends if you're going to be routing stuff funny.
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Funny enough I was once in your boat too. However if you are talking about notable differences I would have to say SSD just because it makes your system leaps and bounds more responsive. If silence is your thing I suggest the watercooling however in my mind like the others above have said a kit is not usually the best idea. One reason in particular is that the pump in the XSPC kit is not very good. I would give you a list of parts I like,but currently I am on my phone so I will have to post again later.

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I just did a case build on a 800D myself for my nephew.. Pictures are very bad off my phone but I used the following and everything came together very easy. If you see the one picture shows the front of the case with the XSPC Dual 5.25" Bay Reservoir you can only add a fan controller above this because the Swiftech radiator tubing goes down to the res. So a long DVD drive will hit the tubing etc.. So all DVD players will be put at the bottom 2 section.

Also I would add another M4 64gb for a raid with all OS stuff on and get even more speed and just back up your stuff weekly and you will not worry about your OS stuff etc...

The following parts used below

XSPC Dual 5.25" Bay Reservoir for Single Laing DDC has a brushed aluminum to it in black or silver Performancepcs
Swiftech 350 or 355 pump newegg
Tygon 3603 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Clear Tubing Performancepcs
6 x Bitspower Premium G1/4" High Flow 1/2" Fitting - Black Matte or Chrome Finish Performancepcs
EK-Supreme LTX (LIGHT Xtreme) CPU Water Block (Intel) - EN (Nickel) Performancepcs
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Feser One F1 Cooling Fluid - UV Blue Performancepcs Never worry about leaks because this is non conductive

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That looks really cool I think we have the same board. What is the prognosis on colored fluid? Some people say it degrades quicker than with no dyes? Does the cpu block metal type have anything to do with the other materials I will use in the system? Are there some better than others?
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This is a great thread as far as information on starting up a H2o system in one's pc for firstimers. I have also been looking at watercooling and was also very close to ordering the XSPC rasa kit too. In fact it is sitting in my cart on frozenpc but I never committed to clicking the purchase button as I wanted to find out more.

I was thinking of using that as a starting point but I want to water cool my CPU and my 580 classified ultra. I wasn't sure the pump in the rasa kit would work for a cpu / gpu combo and from what most have said here it seems at best it "might" work but it wont do so for a long period of time.

I think I have plenty of space for really anything in my CM haf X case. Not to hijack your thread here for a moment but if I'm planning on a cpu motherboard upgrade in the next 3 weeks or so should I just hold on the water cooling until I decide exactly what I'm getting as far as motherboard and cpu? I have seen that most waterblocks for the cpu are "multi-mount" and fit most of the popular sockets so I wouldn't think it would matter much. I have a core 2 extreme qx9650 atm but I'm thinking of the 2500K or the 2600k with an evga z68 FTW mobo and some form of G.skill drr3.
Other thoughts... would it be possible to get the rasa kit as a starting point and change the pump to say the D5 and add the gpu water block and needed fittings or are the rasa kits sort of "non-upgradable"?
post #19 of 21
You can absolutely buy the Rasa kit and swap out the pump later, the kit is just a bundle deal to save on money, there's nothing proprietary. As for the pump it comes with, it should be just fine for a single radiator, a cpu block, and a gpu block, I'd go ahead and use it to cool both your cpu and your 580 to start with, and if you end up with one of the ones that has issues you can always upgrade the pump later, rather than wait on an RMA.
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That looks really cool I think we have the same board. What is the prognosis on colored fluid? Some people say it degrades quicker than with no dyes? Does the cpu block metal type have anything to do with the other materials I will use in the system? Are there some better than others?

You will get major mixed reviews on color fluid/dyes etc.. For me all I use is the NICKEL color blocks from CPU, GPU etc... And after one year of use I see a tiny bit of white film inside the tubing build up and some the block(s) as well. All I do is take the old tubing out replace it or soak it in warm distilled water with distilled vinegar with the blocks and then a final rinse with just distilled water again then let it set to dry everything is new again.

Now your question regarding the fitting if it were me buy the Tygon 3603 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Clear Tubing and use the normal Bitspower Premium G1/4" High Flow 1/2" Fitting any color cut the tubing to size then dip the tip into hot distilled water then attached to 1/2 fitting (when hot/warm very easy to put on make sure it drys for 30 min) after that tubing will be attached to fitting and the only way to take it off is to cut it.

If I were you I would just buy the HEATKILLER CPU block I used one on my system the last time and there are made very nice..
    
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