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Hmm.. ya. I guess in this version it is more of a mini missile. I was thinking it could home in on a laser marked target during launch. So in the case of air to air you could just stick a laser sight on a swivel turret and rapidly paint the enemy aircraft (like holding a laser pointer and pointing it at a moving frisbee) not 100% perfect but greatly enhances the bullet impact ratio to outright missing.
Future versions maybe.
I think they have this with the actual gun, but if the bullets could follow the guns' laser as well that would greatly improve the number of impacts.

It would probably be too expensive to do something like that anyway. These are special made bullets. I would be pissed if the military jets used these as if they were basic ammo and not have at a minimum 98% hit rate.
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It's the Kennedy bullet...eek.gif

Best comment yet, guess I can take you off ignore for that witty remark...rolleyes.gif
    
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Hmm.. ya. I guess in this version it is more of a mini missile. I was thinking it could home in on a laser marked target during launch. So in the case of air to air you could just stick a laser sight on a swivel turret and rapidly paint the enemy aircraft (like holding a laser pointer and pointing it at a moving frisbee) not 100% perfect but greatly enhances the bullet impact ratio to outright missing.
Future versions maybe.
I think they have this with the actual gun, but if the bullets could follow the guns' laser as well that would greatly improve the number of impacts.

Don't need to place the laser on swivel... shine the laser at a mirror or prism. Then it can rapidly move allowing you to paint multiple targets (for-all-intent-and-purpose) simultaneously.
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You are describing precision, not accuracy. wink.gif
Precision = hitting around the same spot.
Accuracy = hitting around the right spot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_and_precision
No, there are no rifle/round combinations that are accurate up to 1.5 miles. The deviation from a target is 6-30 feet which obviously is more than enough to miss targets.
http://www.gizmag.com/worlds-longest-sniper-kill-247km/14992/
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Harrison still had to aim six feet higher than the targets, and two feet to the left to allow for the gentlest of breezes and bullet fall.

the link made me believe the kill was from a distance of 247 km . i had to open to then see that was 2.47
    
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I think it took a few shots to hit... and how does this show rifle are accurate to 1.5mi? This proves that they are NOT accurate to that range.
You said it was impossible, I'm just saying it is. I'm not saying the rifle was built for it or accurate for that distance.
    
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You said it was impossible, I'm just saying it is. I'm not saying the rifle was built for it or accurate for that distance.

Ok, not impossible but highly improbable. There are a few luck+skill shots here and there.

Improbable enough to not being even close to being reliable. Would you place a soldier's life on it?
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You said it was impossible, I'm just saying it is. I'm not saying the rifle was built for it or accurate for that distance.

It is just along the same lines as like when a basket ball player makes a basket from the opposite side of half court. Some skill and experience is used to guide the shot but it is mostly luck that brings it home.
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This would mean that a sniper could more reliably hit a moving target; currently they have to estimate where the target will be when the round arrives which is fine so long as the target is not moving erratically. Depending on the actual manoeuvrability of the round this system could compensate for that.

Would this not also allow a normal rifle to greatly increase it's effective range by aiming up, rather than straight at the target? Much in the same way that the archers first realized that by aiming at 45° they could send their arrows further, at the cost of accuracy, you could do the same with rifles. The only difference now is that you can have that range and the accuracy as the bullet will be guided back down onto the target by the spotter's laser.

I realize that some of the speed will be lost due to the longer flight time, however bullets fired straight up in the air have been reported to kill people when they come back down (albeit not through a helmet or other armour), so I don't think arching the shot will make the round completely ineffective.

This isn't going to completely remove the need for well trained professional snipers, it is just going to push the limits of what they are capable of. Also the actual shot is apparently the easiest part of being a sniper; I have been told that getting into position undetected and getting out again after firing are way more difficult than the actual shooting.

Either way I'm sure that it is every snipers' wet dream, and I'll bet they can't wait to have a play and see what it can do.
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This isn't going to completely remove the need for well trained professional snipers, it is just going to push the limits of what they are capable of. Also the actual shot is apparently the easiest part of being a sniper; I have been told that getting into position undetected and getting out again after firing are way more difficult than the actual shooting.
Either way I'm sure that it is every snipers' wet dream, and I'll bet they can't wait to have a play and see what it can do.

If massed produced, this could expand the ranks of snipers. ....Or create a new class between sniper and infantry.
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I hate the idea of being able to take out targets with no effort, it makes going to war and killing too easy since it's pretty much like a video game where you either guide a drone or you let your bullet seek targets while you sit back. I would never be proud of winning a war where my sole purpose was to press the trigger while not even aiming. Before if you were gonna go to war, you (better) believed in your cause because your life was on the line, now it's "lock and forget" and "I killed you from my couch". In all these years of weapon research, there is one thing that never changed and that is the human body and its resistance to injury, I hope my taxes aren't funding this crap.

Yeah, let's make it more risky for everyone else involved just so there's a challenge to those involved, putting more lives at risk during a conflict. Not that exterminating human life is something to celebrate, but if it has to be done, why not do it in the way that reduces the extent of the effect?

Regardless, you don't think that your taxes are funding every other sort of weaponry development that the military is even minutely interested in?
    
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