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Vanilla WoW was the only time I ever liked WoW. All downhill after that.

Nostalgia is a powerful notion. Objectively, WoW was offering a new experience utilizing some tested formulas from previous MMOs. I firmly believe that if Vanilla WoW were to step onto this market in its release state, it would not be so lovingly judged.

Once again, I am not trying to prop ToR up by tearing other games down. I am being reasonable about it.
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Voice actors don't get paid astronomical amounts.

They must. They claimed like 50 million was spent on voice actors alone.
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It's up to us to do all that we can to make this game a financial failure. Putting light sabers and voice acting into WoW does not justify a new game, ESPECIALLY not for hundreds of millions of dollars. If they lose money, maybe the MMO genre will stop drowning in these awful WoW rehashes. Please stop remaking WoW.
The Modern Warfare series alone has innovated more over the past 5 years than the entire MMO genre.

I've played MMOs steadily for the past 13 years, and it is completely ludicrous to make such a claim. Even excluding the massive development cycles these games have, to claim that innovation is stagnant within the genre is ridiculous. Applying reductive logic of that sort to ANY genre spits out pretty superficial results. (i.e. All platformers at their core have your run right to reach a goal.) A fully voiced, story-driven MMO IS innovation. You might argue their success of implementation, but it is disingenuous to argue that innovation must translate to overwhelming success and acclaim.

Modern Warfare 3 was also one of the least innovation games I've seen all year. They are trying to annualize that franchise and it is showing.
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I've played MMOs steadily for the past 13 years, and it is completely ludicrous to make such a claim. Even excluding the massive development cycles these games have, to claim that innovation is stagnant within the genre is ridiculous. Applying reductive logic of that sort to ANY genre spits out pretty superficial results. (i.e. All platformers at their core have your run right to reach a goal.) A fully voiced, story-driven MMO IS innovation. You might argue their success of implementation, but it is disingenuous to argue that innovation must translate to overwhelming success and acclaim.
Modern Warfare 3 was also one of the least innovation games I've seen all year. They are trying to annualize that franchise and it is showing.

Final Fantasy XI was story driven, and it was back in 2002.

Final Fantasy XIV innovated to much...and got burned, but it was also voice-acted and story driven. Still hope with XIV 2.0 though. tongue.gif
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post #25 of 92
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News one month from now: SWTOR retains 100,000 subscribers. And how exactly did this game cost 200 million to make? Copy the WoW engine and do a bunch of CGI cut scenes with voice-overs. Really, 200 million?

Actually, SW:TOR uses the Hero Engine. thumb.gif

Also, I know a ton of people who quit SW:TOR before their 30 days. It wouldn't surprise me if you're right about the 100k subscribers, which is still a lot when you think about it.
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Im amazed on how many people still say this wow clone crap. its like there brains is the size of peanuts.
Why not say is a EQ clone, or a Ashron Call clone or many other games that uses the same base formula of MMO.
Rift is the same way in the base style of MMO. FF is the same. GW2 will be the same MMO base.

Quest to kill this and that. Craft this and That. Give this to that person.
Its the same will every MMO that has ever been made.

GW2 still got 3 or 4 months before release or even longer.
3 or 4 months for swtor can lead to many new flashpoints, operations, pvp, fixes, graphics, gameplay.

For 1 month, this has been very good for Bioware for they offer. More so, than many games did at launch.
    
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This thread seems to be full of people who either hate the game and just down it regardless. Or manic fanboys throwing hate at the haters.


Of coarse there are a few logical people as well


I for one Thought the game was alright. Got to lvl 38 and got terribly board of the recycled everything. I honestly 100% felt like I was playing WoW, runes of magic, and rift put together with a bit of alloids.
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They must. They claimed like 50 million was spent on voice actors alone.

Think of all the lines in French and German.
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The subscriber figure includes players who are still within their 30-day free trial period and haven't yet started to pay the $15-a-month subscription fee but have entered their credit card information and authorized EA to begin charging them when their trial period ends.
Of course they put in their credit card information, I'm pretty sure that they were required to. But you can't really say that they're "active" subscribers assuming they played once a week. We will see how this is 2 months from now. But for now, congrats to them for a good amount of units sold.



Actually you are wrong, you do not and never had to put in your CC information to play SWTOR.

I waited until the end of my 30 days before i put it in and was never prevented from playing the game so if they say they have 1.7million who have put in their CC info and authorized payment then they have that many active subscribers who actually plan on paying for the monthly fee and playing.
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ITT:
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I'm having a blast playing through, and I've only just started my first character.
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